National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Florida173]

And I don't agree with a lot of what is said from Bellingcat on the topic, but this article does go into some pretty good detail on the history

The Boogaloo Movement Is Not What You Think - bellingcat


I also feel that all of this has been covered through pages and pages on this site across multiple threads.

 

[AWP]

I also feel that all of this has been covered through pages and pages on this site across multiple threads.

Which is fine, but we're past that.
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Break, break:
If I need to make a stronger statement on the topic, I'm sure the members will let me or the staff know.

 

[Cookie_]

Which is fine, but we're past that.
----
Break, break:
If I need to make a stronger statement on the topic, I'm sure the members will let me or the staff know.

Should I move this topic to the politics thread, since it's sort of derailed this one?

Because it seems a topic worth discussing based some of the responses I got.

 

[AWP]

Should I move this topic to the politics thread, since it's sort of derailed this one?

Because it seems a topic worth discussing based some of the responses I got.

No, I'm just letting everyone know where we stand.

 

[Blizzard]

Here or the politics thread...maybe both?

Perhaps a little too much truth for some to handle:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1267106150044106754

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273038720225153029

 

[Florida173]

Also. Ami visited CHAZ, now CHOP

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=640080289924120&id=42597808880

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

 

[AWP]

You run at someone swinging a weapon, saying "we're going to fucking kill you", and don't expect to be shot?

 

[Devildoc]

I saw that earlier today, regardless if right or wrong (different perspective and all), when he committed, he committed.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

when he committed, he committed.

I’ve been (was before the pandemic) getting tactical pistol training and that’s no shit. The muscle memory exercises are, if you have to draw, you draw and commit, assess and evaluate, then reholster.

That church shooting a few months ago really made me think about how and why I carry.

 

[Blizzard]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

Who was wearing a plate carrier and shooting a rifle? I believe this is a different video/angle of the same incident Thunderhorse posted earlier.

The guy in the blue shirt doesn't have a carrier visible to me and shot the other guy using a pistol. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Florida173]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

Plenty of video for people to form an educated opinion. Showing him walking away from the altercation, and then being chased down. I can't imagine any part of what happened prior to him being chased down being in any way relevant to his actions. You can hear what the intent of running him down was and one voice is loud and clear "We're going to fucking kill you."

 

[Ooh-Rah]

"We're going to fucking kill you."

Yeah, I heard that too. Was not sure if it was 'them' or if it was him shouting a warning.

 

[Florida173]

Who was wearing a plate carrier and shooting a rifle? I believe this is a different video/angle of the same incident Thunderhorse posted earlier.

The guy in the blue shirt doesn't have a carrier visible to me and shot the other guy with a pistol. Maybe I'm missing something?

Image of what could be his plate carrier.. and a guy with a knife?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Thanks @Florida173 - that's a much better still image than what I saw from trying to freeze the video.

 

[Blizzard]

Image of what could be his plate carrier.. and a guy with a knife?

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Gotcha. In the other video of the incident, which @ThunderHorse posted, you can clearly see that brown thing is a towel/scarf/shemagh or something. It's not a plate carrier...or if it is, it's the worse design ever.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Gotcha. In the other video of the incident, which @ThunderHorse posted, you can clearly see that brown thing is a towel/scarf/shemagh or something. It's not a plate carrier...or if it is, it's the worse design ever.

I missed Thunder's video....I'll have to go back and look. That's why I made a point of saying:

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20
Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

 

[Florida173]

meh.. looks like it's just a shirt, not a plate carrier

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1272774976043487234/pu/vid/592x1280/WjxROaLm76GDaMb9.mp4

 

[AWP]

Plate carrier, towel, Bible, crossword puzzle...if you run at someone saying that you'll fucking kill them then expect to get shot, stabbed, nuked from orbit.

 

[Blizzard]

I missed Thunder's video....I'll have to go back and look. That's why I made a point of saying:

No worries. Just clarifying for myself as well.