National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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JedisonsDad
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Seems a bit like damage control at this point, after they realized how many gov contracts were potentially at stake.
Even if this isn’t the case, it sure has the appearance of it. And we all know, appearance is all that matters in today’s society.
Trump's ire didn't factor in.
Goodyear stock closed 3% down the day after, and some independent dealerships let it be known that they would stop stocking GY tires. Fakebook outrage brigade also swung into gear.
Politics, Religion and business don't mix.
ThunderHorse
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"Fiery, but mostly peaceful"
You seriously can't make this shit up.
You seriously can't make this shit up.
I'd hate to see what riots would entail in the authors eyes.
^They're making 'smores on those "fires", peaceful protesters gotta eat...
Devildoc
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GFM has shut down sites to raise money for Rittenhouse's defense. Patheos invoking him as a "domestic terrorist" as Christian sites raise money:
Christian Crowdfunding Site Raising Money For Kenosha Killer Kyle Rittenhouse
Edited to add, some of the comments are face-palm worthy.
Christian Crowdfunding Site Raising Money For Kenosha Killer Kyle Rittenhouse
Edited to add, some of the comments are face-palm worthy.
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But Go Fund Me has no issues hosting sites for what seems to be virtually every thug in the country...
The only person who garners my sympathy in the midst of this whole burning bucket of bullshit is the woman who put the restraining order out on Kenosha's favorite SJW martyr. If anyone should have shot him, it would be her. Instead, she follows the law, finally works up the courage to leave her abuser, calls the police when he violates said p.o., and now he's a GFM millionaire with his name emblazoned upon the uniforms of overpaid jocks. My heart genuinely hurts for her. Everyone else can suck start a shotgun, for all I give a damn.
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I am not sure 'sympathy' is what I have. I DO want to see him have a fair shake, and reading ANYTHING the MSM or the left (see Patheos article) makes him seem like a blood-thirsty tyrant and his victims as innocent bystanders. If I had the money I would absolutely contribute to his defense fund, though.
Personally, I find that he falls under good intentions, bad judgement. LE's hamstrung and/or incapable of actually quelling these things due to either ineptitude, lack of manpower, or political influence. This leads to people seeing the innocent bystanders taking heat for nothing other than existing.
I question his sequence of decisions that put him there that night, but I don't question his actions when it came down to it. He didn't NEED to be there, but nobody needs to be "there" in all honesty.
People's lives are being destroyed. Insurance may rebuild the business (if they pay out, they're trying to duck out on many riot payments it seems) but it doesn't cover for the gap in income for all the people who worked there, owned it, etc etc etc. So the insurance argument is a moot thing. It helps, but it's not the same at all.
I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, but I have zero ill will towards him either. I do harbor ill will towards rioters. I'm all about, and pay attention to people that peacefully protest. You start trying to IED and kill people on the daily who are the rank and file of trying to keep things sane? fuck you and the horse you rode in on with a hot minigun muzzle.
I question his sequence of decisions that put him there that night, but I don't question his actions when it came down to it. He didn't NEED to be there, but nobody needs to be "there" in all honesty.
People's lives are being destroyed. Insurance may rebuild the business (if they pay out, they're trying to duck out on many riot payments it seems) but it doesn't cover for the gap in income for all the people who worked there, owned it, etc etc etc. So the insurance argument is a moot thing. It helps, but it's not the same at all.
I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, but I have zero ill will towards him either. I do harbor ill will towards rioters. I'm all about, and pay attention to people that peacefully protest. You start trying to IED and kill people on the daily who are the rank and file of trying to keep things sane? fuck you and the horse you rode in on with a hot minigun muzzle.
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I guess I'll wait to see what else come of this, but this kid (and I'm assuming his parents since he has unlimited access to an AR at 17 years old) appear to be the type who will show up at a Chipotle kitted up for Afghanistan...because they can.
It appears he went looking for trouble....and found it.
There's a difference between protecting you and yours vs. what he apparently did.
Get off of my side.
It appears he went looking for trouble....and found it.
There's a difference between protecting you and yours vs. what he apparently did.
Get off of my side.
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I see a couple points: one is whether he should have been there (no). But he was, and being there was bad judgment but not illegal. I would be horrified if my 17 or 18 year-old son went to, say, Alexandria, Virginia (a little further) to participate in something that had a potential to be so volatile. But then, this kid's parents seemed to have a different standard than I.
The other point is whether he should have access to an AR (or any other gun). To that point, I certainly have no issue (I went to a high school where every pick-up had a gun rack with rifles and shotties, regardless of whether it was hunting season).
I get your perspective, and I respect it.
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Same.
JedisonsDad
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Not calling anyone out in particular, just making a general statement. All the people on social media that seem to justify his charges with the statement of “he didn’t need to be there” aren’t taking into account that neither did the people he shot. “Well they were exercising there first amendment right to assemble” okay.... so was he?
On a related note, there seems to be screen shots of the bicep guy stating his only regret is that he didn’t “kill that kid”. Seems like a home run for Kyle’s defense team. Also doesn’t seem like a statement anyone should ever mutter is that they regret not killing a kid, no matter who you are.
On a related note, there seems to be screen shots of the bicep guy stating his only regret is that he didn’t “kill that kid”. Seems like a home run for Kyle’s defense team. Also doesn’t seem like a statement anyone should ever mutter is that they regret not killing a kid, no matter who you are.
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So, something that hasn't been touched on at all so far is that Rittenhouse actually had reason to be in Kenosha, WI. Like many people, who cross state borders daily, he had a job in Kenosha. His? Lifeguard.
Attorneys representing Kyle Rittenhouse say he was wrongfully charged after 'acting in self-defense'
So this really wasn't a: "Hey Mom, I'm going to Kenosha today to counter-protest against the looters and arsonists" conversation. How he got to Kenosha that night was "normal".
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It's pretty disgusting how transitive the morality of the #MeToo movement is. (No GoFundMe for the victim) Jacob Blake had a warrant out for his arrest for alleged rape, he was in the woman whom he had allegedly raped's home and was about to steal her car for a second time, this time he was going to take their children. Whenever he receives this money, his Child Support liabilities will have modifications and he will be sued civilly by his victim now that he has money.
Attorneys representing Kyle Rittenhouse say he was wrongfully charged after 'acting in self-defense'
So this really wasn't a: "Hey Mom, I'm going to Kenosha today to counter-protest against the looters and arsonists" conversation. How he got to Kenosha that night was "normal".
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It's pretty disgusting how transitive the morality of the #MeToo movement is. (No GoFundMe for the victim) Jacob Blake had a warrant out for his arrest for alleged rape, he was in the woman whom he had allegedly raped's home and was about to steal her car for a second time, this time he was going to take their children. Whenever he receives this money, his Child Support liabilities will have modifications and he will be sued civilly by his victim now that he has money.
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I read the statement. Of course it's from his lawyers, BUT if true, it really changes the entire narrative 180 degrees.
Devildoc
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I see the "he should not have been there" argument different than the argument about his actions. I dare say any of us with a Y chromosome did something, or was somewhere, or was with someone with whom we absolutely should not. It's part of our chemistry, and but for the grace of God and all, right? Many of us are plain lucky to be alive given what we did as teenagers. Should he have been there? I don't think it's ever a good idea to interject one's self into a powder keg; but, he did. I say that too all of the rioters/looters/rabble-rousers and non-peaceful activists and protesters.
It's complicated, and I see and understand both sides (he should/should not have been there). I respect both views, and I can easily vacillate between the two.
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