National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

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Ya'll really are fired up in this thread.

I'm down for letting every police officer in this country take a 6 month long vacation and let the people go to work and (almost) anything goes. No one will be charged for killing rapists, child molesters, crooks/robbers and rioters/looters. But if you break the law then it's your ass vigilante style.

 
“Goodyear is committed to fostering an inclusive and respectful workplace where all of our associates can do their best in a spirit of teamwork. As part of this commitment, we do allow our associates to express their support on racial injustice and other equity issues but ask that they refrain from workplace expressions, verbal or otherwise, in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party as well as other similar forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of equity issues.”

That'pretty shitty rationale on Goodyear's part. "We don't want any politics in the workplace... unless it's politics we support (or at least politics we're afraid to crack down on in the current political climate)."

Good on Goodyear:

Goodyear Says It Will Allow Employees To Wear Pro-Police Apparel


Goodyear CEO Rich Kramer issued a statement Thursday saying that his company’s policy would be clarified to allow employees of the tire company to wear apparel that expresses support for police on Goodyear premises, after a leaked slide that appeared to show Blue Lives Matter and MAGA merchandise were not allowed drew the ire of President Donald Trump.
 
The only person who garners my sympathy in the midst of this whole burning bucket of bullshit is the woman who put the restraining order out on Kenosha's favorite SJW martyr. If anyone should have shot him, it would be her. Instead, she follows the law, finally works up the courage to leave her abuser, calls the police when he violates said p.o., and now he's a GFM millionaire with his name emblazoned upon the uniforms of overpaid jocks. My heart genuinely hurts for her. Everyone else can suck start a shotgun, for all I give a damn.
 
I'm having a lot of trouble bubbling up any sympathy for this kid...or his parents for that matter.

I am not sure 'sympathy' is what I have. I DO want to see him have a fair shake, and reading ANYTHING the MSM or the left (see Patheos article) makes him seem like a blood-thirsty tyrant and his victims as innocent bystanders. If I had the money I would absolutely contribute to his defense fund, though.
 
Personally, I find that he falls under good intentions, bad judgement. LE's hamstrung and/or incapable of actually quelling these things due to either ineptitude, lack of manpower, or political influence. This leads to people seeing the innocent bystanders taking heat for nothing other than existing.


I question his sequence of decisions that put him there that night, but I don't question his actions when it came down to it. He didn't NEED to be there, but nobody needs to be "there" in all honesty.

People's lives are being destroyed. Insurance may rebuild the business (if they pay out, they're trying to duck out on many riot payments it seems) but it doesn't cover for the gap in income for all the people who worked there, owned it, etc etc etc. So the insurance argument is a moot thing. It helps, but it's not the same at all.

I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, but I have zero ill will towards him either. I do harbor ill will towards rioters. I'm all about, and pay attention to people that peacefully protest. You start trying to IED and kill people on the daily who are the rank and file of trying to keep things sane? fuck you and the horse you rode in on with a hot minigun muzzle.
 
I guess I'll wait to see what else come of this, but this kid (and I'm assuming his parents since he has unlimited access to an AR at 17 years old) appear to be the type who will show up at a Chipotle kitted up for Afghanistan...because they can.

It appears he went looking for trouble....and found it.

There's a difference between protecting you and yours vs. what he apparently did.

Get off of my side.
 
I guess I'll wait to see what else come of this, but this kid (and I'm assuming his parents since he has unlimited access to an AR at 17 years old) appear to be the type who will show up at a Chipotle kitted up for Afghanistan...because they can.

It appears he went looking for trouble....and found it.

There's a difference between protecting you and yours vs. what he apparently did.

Get off of my side.

I see a couple points: one is whether he should have been there (no). But he was, and being there was bad judgment but not illegal. I would be horrified if my 17 or 18 year-old son went to, say, Alexandria, Virginia (a little further) to participate in something that had a potential to be so volatile. But then, this kid's parents seemed to have a different standard than I.

The other point is whether he should have access to an AR (or any other gun). To that point, I certainly have no issue (I went to a high school where every pick-up had a gun rack with rifles and shotties, regardless of whether it was hunting season).

I get your perspective, and I respect it.
 
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