A few months back I'd write a long winded and immature post, now all I have is just, really?
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A few months back I'd write a long winded and immature post, now all I have is just, really?
Neither was the guy who shot the officer. Let's highlight your comment again
The whole bit about "selling crack" isn't what I'm talking about; you said you have no sympathy for someone defending their home.
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You’ve been asked to tone it down multiple times.
Consider this a formal warning.
Points assessed.
Kraut783
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No one is saying any of us would not engage anyone breaking into our house, and protect ourselves and family...this is not about that.
This is about a legal search warrant on a drug house that happen to go bad....the police did not hit the "wrong" address, but a legitimate target of the investigation.
I have done many no knock and knock and announce SW's, especially in the violent crack cocaine days.....there are reasons there are no knocks, but to be honest, hitting a house at zero dark thirty....no matter if it is a knock and announce...no one is up and it is a surprise every time.
Most times...there are no issues and people go to jail, sometimes....it goes bad and someone goes to the morgue. That is part of the J O B and part of being involved in the drug trade.
This is about a legal search warrant on a drug house that happen to go bad....the police did not hit the "wrong" address, but a legitimate target of the investigation.
I have done many no knock and knock and announce SW's, especially in the violent crack cocaine days.....there are reasons there are no knocks, but to be honest, hitting a house at zero dark thirty....no matter if it is a knock and announce...no one is up and it is a surprise every time.
Most times...there are no issues and people go to jail, sometimes....it goes bad and someone goes to the morgue. That is part of the J O B and part of being involved in the drug trade.
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Just to correct my previous response. Looks like there were only 3 officers at Taylor's address.
Yes, he in fact was and he was under surveillance, which is why the police were there. Read the report, this has nothing to do with someone bdefending their home.
With the snark directed at me, I'm not sure I could have been any more respectful. Read the police report that's out there.
You could have made your point without coming across as condescending.
"Neither was the guy who shot the officer. Earlier, you stated..."
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"Neither was the guy who shot the officer. Reading your earlier post..."
I'm not seeing Kenneth Walker in that report, other than when people are discussing the shooting itself; I do see Adrian Walker mentioned, but that's a different person. They aren't related either.
Got it; I'll watch the wording.
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Just wanted to highlight this. And this.
Using sophism to normalize the behavior of someone in the drug trade as that of a law abiding citizen is rather obtuse. Boggles my mind that people are actively trying to normalize deviancy, which can covertly or overtly translate into support for a festering socialist insurgency.
As for kicking down doors... I didn't know you were infantry.
@R.Caerbannog , @Cookie_ can correct me if I'm wrong but he isn't condoning or trying to "normalize the behavior of someone in the drug trade as that of a law abiding citizen". He is attacking the point that was raised by @BlackSmokeRisinG in regards to defending your home(same goes for you @BlackSmokeRisinG , correct me if I'm misunderstanding your point).
Clearly there's a divide in regards to how each of us think of or expect criminals or those around criminal activity should be treated. I don't see how that can "covertly or overtly translate into support for a festering socialist insurgency.".
If anything I feel as if that's as you say obtuse and I'd go so far as a simple way of looking at things.
Clearly there's a divide in regards to how each of us think of or expect criminals or those around criminal activity should be treated. I don't see how that can "covertly or overtly translate into support for a festering socialist insurgency.".
If anything I feel as if that's as you say obtuse and I'd go so far as a simple way of looking at things.
We've been talking about Kenneth Walker, ya know, the guy not listed on that sheet?
I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to drugs; most every country that has decriminalized them have seen reductions in use and the associated crimes.
That doesn't mean that I'm trying to argue the criminal element is ok; I'm not.
I have nothing for your deviancy sentence, because I don't even understand what you're getting at.
You'd be amazed who they train to kick in doors during sea-biscuits, and even more amazed that some of those guys actually get to do it on deployment.
ALL STOP! This has been beaten to death. Everyone take a break.
My man @RackMaster hit the nail on the head.
I'll do you all one better, the thread is locked. The staff is going to chat about whether we need it at all; it's not like we stay on topic in these threads anyway. I am going to suggest we combine all this dumb shit into a super thread where you all can get together and talk out the ideas of America's social fabric, politics, election, and social issues.
More to follow.
I'll do you all one better, the thread is locked. The staff is going to chat about whether we need it at all; it's not like we stay on topic in these threads anyway. I am going to suggest we combine all this dumb shit into a super thread where you all can get together and talk out the ideas of America's social fabric, politics, election, and social issues.
More to follow.
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This is your official National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion thread. It is a merge of both.
Anything and everything "social" related should go into this thread. If a new thread Social related is started, there is a VERY good chance it will be merged into this thread without notice or fanfare.
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A juror from the Taylor case has filed a motion to have all the grand jury proceedings released, because they argued that the AG is misrepresenting the case in order to use the jurors as a shield.
The juror claims they were never given the option of indicting the other two officers, and never given the option to indict for homicide at all.
You think riots are bad now because people because think the system protects cops?
Imagine how bad it will be these documents show the AG was "lying".
Breonna Taylor case grand juror: We weren’t given the option of indicting the two cops who shot her
The juror claims they were never given the option of indicting the other two officers, and never given the option to indict for homicide at all.
You think riots are bad now because people because think the system protects cops?
Imagine how bad it will be these documents show the AG was "lying".
Breonna Taylor case grand juror: We weren’t given the option of indicting the two cops who shot her
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Not surprising at all.
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So the AG took to the grand jury what his team put together as a case that they looked at being able to successfully prosecute, and said grand jury indicted.
Indicting people just to indict them because it is politically expedient is dummer than shit. Also, expect KY to go hard red in November when it comes to who actually shows up to the polls.
Indicting people just to indict them because it is politically expedient is dummer than shit. Also, expect KY to go hard red in November when it comes to who actually shows up to the polls.
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Let's be honest, there is no interest in the truth or justice. What they really want is a public lynching. Because short of that, there doesn't appear to be any type of solution for many people still crying over this tragedy would recognize. Justice is being served but reason has gone AWOL.
Yea, but does that actually matter to anyone?
For a lot of people unfamiliar with the system, not giving the jury the chance to make that decision is the same thing as the AG protecting the officers.
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