National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Salt USMC]

Man, the narrative shift here is pretty wild. The goalposts have been moved off of the field, past the next county, and right onto the highway.

It started with: “Actually, not that many MAGA folks participated in the capitol breakin”

Then it went to: “Actually the BLM riots were worse!””

Up to yesterday we were at: “It was really Antifa agitators”

Then, today, we’ve progressed to: “The REAL insurrection was the summer riots!”

Next week I think we’ll be at: “When you get down to it, the true revolution was the friends we made along the way.”

 

[RackMaster]

Man, the narrative shift here is pretty wild. The goalposts have been moved off of the field, past the next county, and right onto the highway.

It started with: “Actually, not that many MAGA folks participated in the capitol breakin”

Then it went to: “Actually the BLM riots were worse!””

Up to yesterday we were at: “It was really Antifa agitators”

Then, today, we’ve progressed to: “The REAL insurrection was the summer riots!”

Next week I think we’ll be at: “When you get down to it, the true revolution was the friends we made along the way.”

As an outsider, it's possible that all of those things can be true at the same time. Both sides are a mess and are responsible for all of it.

 

[Kaldak]

As an outsider, it's possible that all of those things can be true at the same time. Both sides are a mess and are responsible for all of it.

This. Very much this!

 

[ThunderHorse]

Man, the narrative shift here is pretty wild. The goalposts have been moved off of the field, past the next county, and right onto the highway.

It started with: “Actually, not that many MAGA folks participated in the capitol breakin”

Then it went to: “Actually the BLM riots were worse!””

Up to yesterday we were at: “It was really Antifa agitators”

Then, today, we’ve progressed to: “The REAL insurrection was the summer riots!”

Next week I think we’ll be at: “When you get down to it, the true revolution was the friends we made along the way.”

I don't need to dredge into my All things Politics Posts...but. None of this is mutually exclusive. At least one "majorish" left wing agitator was arrested as part of the Capitol riots, he actually got more than trespassing charges.

As far as point 1. There were a couple hundred thousand protestors at the Capitol, well under 1k, but a significant amount of bodies actually went into the Capitol. And this didn't happen because some dudes closed the doors. I'm sure that helps, but there were a couple hundred thousands people there.

And to your second to last point, it was and it was fomented my major leaders on the left. The butchers bill? 30-60 people (I guess it depends on how you choose to calculate responsibility) are dead because of left wing protests. Then add BILLLIONS in damage in just one city, the financial toll was insane and the only leader in this country that wanted to stop shit and put people behind bars was the POTUS. He's outgoing. We'll see how Prison Filler in Chief VP Harris does In Regards to That.

4 Days left!

 

[Brill]

Man, the narrative shift here is pretty wild. The goalposts have been moved off of the field, past the next county, and right onto the highway.

It started with: “Actually, not that many MAGA folks participated in the capitol breakin”

Then it went to: “Actually the BLM riots were worse!””

Up to yesterday we were at: “It was really Antifa agitators”

Then, today, we’ve progressed to: “The REAL insurrection was the summer riots!”

Next week I think we’ll be at: “When you get down to it, the true revolution was the friends we made along the way.”

That's a huge stretch from what was actually written however, I can understand the HOW such a wild conclusion could be reached. Using CNN, MSNBC, & NYTs guidelines, if a story isn’t true just lie about it being true.

ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the ~73 million Trump supporters are deplorable white supremacist followers of a domestic terrorist cult. <- this is a complete lie and as much of a conspiracy theory as the Trump-Russia hoax.

1) Not everyone who was involved in the criminal activity that occurred in the Capitol building were in fact Trump supporters. FACT
2) Antifa agitators have been arrested among the group of Trump supporters who rioted inside the Capitol. FACT
3) The real insurrection was the summer riots. Debatable however I'm utterly shocked that a liberal would acknowledge such activity occurred.

Regardless of telling a falsehood or omitting key facts to support an opinion, the result is the same.

 

[Brill]

ANTIFA in their own wordz.

 

[Kaldak]

So, here at our state Capitol, we have massive barricades, NG soldiers with up armored hummers, and too many cops to count.

The number of protesters? Three. Yes, 3! And, they have nothing to do with Biden or Trump. They just want you to hear God's word.

So much the FBI's massive armed protests.

Oh, side note. Every Saturday since the election there have been 50-100 Trump supporters protesting outside the Capitol, typically with 10-20 of them sporting guns and tacticool outfits.

 

[Brill]

There is a point on the political spectrum where far left and far right are actually the same ideology.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350873998234677250

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350912518974271489

 

[Locksteady]

There is a point on the political spectrum where far left and far right are actually the same ideology.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350873998234677250

https://twitter.com/x/status/1350912518974271489

Aforementioned horseshoe theory in political science.

 

[Brill]

Aforementioned horseshoe theory in political science.

More like a circle jerk.

 

[Locksteady]

More like a circle jerk.

No one's saying it can't be both.

 

[Gunz]

Now THIS is how you do a knife trick. Gawd-damn I love Marines.

(He speeds up around 40 seconds in)

We spent endless amount of downtime fucking around with our Kabars. Mumbly-peg a lot. And throwing them into the trunks of banana trees. With a good throw you got a satisfying thunk and good penetration.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Aforementioned horseshoe theory in political science.

Generally speaking Law Enforcement Agencies across this country have lost most of their support due to the enforcement of overreaching health mandates. This has partially been covered in the COVID-19 thread and here.

You can make a health recommendation from the CDC and state health authorities, 90% of people will jive with that. But you use the Cops to enforce that idiocy? Because it becomes idiocy and stupidity when you use what is effectively coercion and force of arms by having LEAs arrest people and give them $1500 fines. This effectively makes everyone hate cops. But hey, now the Democrats love cops? Y'all ready for 1994 Crime Bill round 2?

 

[Brill]

Black Panthers are so far left that they are AKSHUALLY right-wing gun nuts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351249865704165377

 

[Grunt]

It's as if the gates of Hades have opened up and all the little demon groups are vying for attention....

 

[ThunderHorse]

Well, I guess the BLM riots will continue: NYPD Arrests 28 Protesters at MLK Day Demonstration

Also, I love how the AG is all in on the defund the police bit and is suing the NYPD.

 

[Gunz]

Then there is the NFAC, the Atlanta-based Not Fucking Around Coalition. Unlike the Panthers, non-violent, 2A supportive but with a BLM agenda. Do I have a problem with this? None at all. The more the merrier. Maybe we can all find some common ground in our love for firearms. And hopefully these cats don't run into a big group of white dudes with ARs and they all feel obligated to annihilate each other.

 

[ThunderHorse]

You know, even in Europe where they had dedicated riot police that have to go toe to toe with Antifa all the time, Yellow Vests, etc.

Guess what they don't roll out for riot control? Crew Served Weapons.

 

[Florida173]

You know, even in Europe where they had dedicated riot police that have to go toe to toe with Antifa all the time, Yellow Vests, etc.

Guess what they don't roll out for riot control? Crew Served Weapons.

I think most people stay willfully ignorant on external issues. It's like the same people are always thinking of how Americans are viewed by random countries.. meanwhile Paris was up in full on riots between firemen and police... The yellow vest "protests" were insane to watch and I bet the vast majority of Americans are completely ignorant of it.

 

[Kraut783]

You know, even in Europe where they had dedicated riot police that have to go toe to toe with Antifa all the time, Yellow Vests, etc.

Guess what they don't roll out for riot control? Crew Served Weapons.

Very true, crew served is a bit of a stretch....but Europe is also able to use their military for every day domestic security.