National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

Kraut783 said:
Most cities just pay off the people, usually it's cheaper than fighting the lawsuit....and it's what cities have insurance for.
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This is true, but I hate this "logic" and believe it's flawed. I'd like to see someone actually crunch the numbers on this because these are civil cases, which generally means the losing party is responsible for ALL legal fees, including opposing council.

Most of these lawsuits are b.s. and even a half competent city attorney or their contracted firm should win these. Doing so would save taxpayers money and discourage more people from looking for easy payouts.
 
Muppet said:
Personally, I believe, if any LEO or medic fucks up, gets department sued, it should not be tax payers, rather, your pension that gets to foot the bill.
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The result is you’ll have no public servants.

Police, EMS, fire… everyone goes out and does the job at the behest of, and with delegated authority from, the public. It is only proper that the public also defends and indemnifies those people.

There’s an argument to be made that deliberate malfeasance should not be covered. And in my department, it isn’t. But truth be told, most lawsuits against the police aren’t about that. They’re money grabs.
 
policemedic said:
The result is you’ll have no public servants.

Police, EMS, fire… everyone goes out and does the job at the behest of, and with delegated authority from, the public. It is only proper that the public also defends and indemnifies those people.

There’s an argument to be made that deliberate malfeasance should not be covered. And in my department, it isn’t. But truth be told, most lawsuits against the police aren’t about that. They’re money grabs.
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I see your point but when public servants fuck the pooch, why do, we have to foot the bill instead of the trash that did the dirt?
 
But they do, if a police officer, firefighter, or paramedic does something outside of training or protocol, they are fired, open to being sued individually….or even arrested.

They are then not supported by the departments legal team and do not get qualified immunity.
 
Sometimes a cow will go down that "fuck around and find out" road - and you CANNOT let that shit slide - these cows are farting up our ozone - giving away milk that should be saved for their babies - and contributing to the continuing push-back against those trying to transition people to a vegan lifestyle...

Fuck cows
 
Box said:
Sometimes a cow will go down that "fuck around and find out" road - and you CANNOT let that shit slide - these cows are farting up our ozone - giving away milk that should be saved for their babies - and contributing to the continuing push-back against those trying to transition people to a vegan lifestyle...

Fuck cows
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Plus, they taste really good.
 
ThunderHorse said:
So some cops in England decided to ram a cow instead of calling animal control or some shit. Oh then they decided to run it over.

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wow....have UK cops not ever dealt with this? Pretty shitty
 
the other "good" cops in the above video probably just didn't see what was going on - or maybe they ALL thought the guy was carrying a semiautomatic assault gopro...

its only a very small amount of cops that abuse their power and betray the public trust like that - besides - if civilians didnt what they were told the first time - cops wouldn't have to pull their guns like that
 
So, a few things.

This is not the whole video. It’s heavily edited. That means we are missing important context.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy’s First Amendment activity consisted of ‘auditing’ the police, or taping infrastructure. At least, that’s usually what we deal with.

These guys do their best to toe a very thin line and make the cops do something like this. And as angry as he sounds, he’s cumming in his pants.

Now, that said….

It’s very hard to justify this. That is precisely why the tape is cut and edited this way. But I’d like to see the officer’s unedited body cam. Like I said, context.

If it’s clearly a GoPro on a selfie stick or gimbal then WTF.

To @AWP’s point, any cop that doesn’t know he’s being taped is an idiot. Most of us are taping ourselves, for fuck’s sake. Hell, in my agency we’re mounting sensors to our holsters that start our cameras recording when we draw our weapons. That’s because if we point a weapon at someone we have to document it and the film and report are reviewed all the way up the chain When the dude you’re dealing with is telling you it’s a camera, that should be a clue that you’re gonna be YouTube famous.

But here’s the thing. It shouldn’t fucking matter. Do the job right. Respect the Constitution. Treat people fairly (which can include arresting them). Don’t be a punching bag or a douchebag. Cameras then become irrelevant.
 
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