Navy ship collisions thread from 2017

Both the Franklin and the McCain are part of the same formation, Destroyer Squadron 15...and there are only eight ships in that squadron. Unless this was just a weird coincidence and unquestionably the fault of the merchant ship, this, to me, suggests squadron-level or higher command deficiencies. Something ain't right.
 
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Yet again. Little strange or just more incompetence?
A top U.S. Navy admiral on Monday called for a swift and thorough investigation into Monday's collision of the USS John S. McCain into an oil tanker near Singapore-- marking the second deadly mishap that occurred in the Pacific in the past three months. ...
Jeff Stutzman, an ex-information warfare specialist in the Navy who works at a cyber threat intelligence company, told McClatchy that “there’s something more than just human error going on."
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Is someone hacking our 7th Fleet? Navy to investigate after USS John S McCain collision
 
I blame China. When you don't have the same naval capabilities as your enemy, but you have an advanced cyber warfare arm, it makes sense to target your enemies over reliance on technology. I'm a tin foil hatter when it comes to China and the pacific, or china and the midde east, or china anything.

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policemedic said:
Not sure if that's good or bad.
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Good on our systems, bad on our sailors up on the bridge, but while it is their fault, big Navy is ultimately responsible for failing to adequately train their sailors. Civilian mariners spend upwards of four (4) years going through school to learn all the systems in the bridge and yet the military side throws up lower enlisted with minimal training, little sleep, and with a greater fear of transgender training schedules than operational duties in the bridge.
 
I think that much of our military has simply forgotten their true mission -- winning wars. Training in social agendas has taken precedence over training in vital areas like locating, closing with, and destroying the enemy....
 
Agoge said:
I think that much of our military has simply forgotten their true mission -- winning wars. Training in social agendas has taken precedence over training in vital areas like locating, closing with, and destroying the enemy....
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They seem to have remembered how to locate, close with, and get damaged by civilian vessels.
 
AWP said:
A sacrificial lamb. Window dressing and nothing more. "See? We fired someone!"
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Easy out for the Navy. Will the commander of DESRON15 and CSG5 also be held accountable?

After all, three of those affected ships were under their commands as well.
 
NavyBuyer said:
Good on our systems, bad on our sailors up on the bridge, but while it is their fault, big Navy is ultimately responsible for failing to adequately train their sailors. Civilian mariners spend upwards of four (4) years going through school to learn all the systems in the bridge and yet the military side throws up lower enlisted with minimal training, little sleep, and with a greater fear of transgender training schedules than operational duties in the bridge.
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That's a part of it. Used to be a new-to-the-fleet Div "O" would go to Newport for 16 weeks of SWO school; apparently now they get OJT and most courses remote from CDs and internet studies.

Also those ships used to have three watches 24/7, now it's one.

There are glaring deficiencies throughout, and it's a shit sandwich of a big enough size that many, many people will get to take a bite.
 
China isn't hacking ships. Come on guys. Do you think they'd do it for shits and giggles when they could keep that capability secret and use it when they actually need it? Providing they can, of course.

It's not the China, it's not ISIS and it's not some conspiracy theory I've not thought of yet. It's the US Navy and some bad luck.
 
SpitfireV said:
China isn't hacking ships. Come on guys. Do you think they'd do it for shits and giggles when they could keep that capability secret and use it when they actually need it? Providing they can, of course.

It's not the China, it's not ISIS and it's not some conspiracy theory I've not thought of yet. It's the US Navy and some bad luck.
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Of course it isn't China. It's this fucker.

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