Poser Busting

[Devildoc]

Coming into this late and with speed reading the posts. If the paper knew the reporter/columnist was doing something incorrect or unethical, then the paper is complicit. If they did not know, and printed a retraction or clarification, or apology, that's what they should have done. Then shit-canned the reporter. Newspapers/media outlets like to apologize about as much as a politician likes to apologize, so I am sure it was a tacit response meant to put a 'period' on the issue and move on. If it was meant to be a 'gotcha' piece or a 'hit piece', which is about the lowest form of 'journalism,' then it's about as unethical as it gets. It is unfortunate that people don't bitch about the 1st amendment and this garbage as much as they do the 2A.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Saw this pic on the net this morning, he was shown on one of the New Years Eve broadcasts last night.
- folks are throwing out the 'poser' tag because he appears too young to be a 7 striped Sgt. Major - (even enlisting at 18 he'd be closer to 50 than he would be 40)

The man looks pretty fucking squared away to me, Semper Fi Marine!

 

[Red Flag 1]

Hmmmmmm.

 

[x SF med]

Ummmmm, he is wearing Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps stripes... It looks like the EGA in the Center. Unless it's Master Guns stripes.

 

[Salt USMC]

There's more than a few posers down at the Oregon militia standoff - Heavily Armed Oregon Patriots Lied about Actual Military Combat Service - Nate Thayer - Journalist

I bet that Ritzheimer clown was just a SUPER fun guy to work with

 

[Marauder06]

Looks young but hard to tell in the picture. I've seen GOs come through here that look like they're in their late 20s. A high level of fitness often translates into a more youthful appearance.

 

[Mad boomer]

This weekend at an event I ran into a guy that couldn't stop talking about himself. I was in the USMC during peacetime and was just a support POG at that time. I don't know all the USMC specific lingo and terms for some of this stuff. I did a minimum enlistment and punched out hence my ignorance of USMC regs and the like.

This person is claiming this in employment and promotion. He currently works as a peace officer.


Here are his claims;
First Force recon 8 years
USMC retired First Sergeant
Been in three aircraft / helo accidents

"Temporarily promoted to Second Lieutenant as was assigned as a Platoon Leader for one unit and wore the rank for two years"

Deployments;
Somalia, Desert shield, Desert Storm, Kosovo, Iraq

Age; 51

Badges
Navy Marine parachutist badge
USMC Scuba badge

Awards claimed
1 Navy / Marine medal
1 Bronze star
1 NAVCOM w/ V
1 NAM w/ V
X5 Combat Action ribbons (Hummmm)
X4 NDSM (Hummm)
Numerous others

I close long time friend, legit USMC retired First Sergeant is also working this now.

 

[Marauder06]

"Temporarily made second lieutenant," in the modern Army? That's an interesting claim. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

"Temporarily made second lieutenant," in the modern Army? That's an interesting claim. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

I can't remember where I read it and it was many many years ago, but it stated the last battle commission was in Vietnam.

ETA: I do know there have been a few NG officer's, who didn't finish IOBC, or didn't finish their degrees who were demoted back to SSG. Not common but that's happened. I wouldn't know about regular Army or the more specifically the USMC in this case.

 

[compforce]

I can't remember where I read it and it was many many years ago, but it stated the last battle commission was in Vietnam.

ETA: I do know there have been a few NG officer's, who didn't finish IOBC, or didn't finish their degrees who were demoted back to SSG. Not common but that's happened. I wouldn't know about regular Army or the more specifically the USMC in this case.

Battlefield promotions are alive and well, but the description doesn't sound like one. I've seen a retired O come back in as an E-6.

"Temporarily made second lieutenant," in the modern Army? That's an interesting claim. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

Not impossible though:

(b) Original appointments as regular officers of the Marine Corps in a grade below major may be made from—
(1)
warrant officers;
(2)
master sergeants; and
(3)
technical sergeants;
in the Regular Marine Corps, for the performance of duty in the technical fields in which they are proficient.

(1) An officer described in paragraph (2) may be given an original appointment as a regular officer of the Navy or the Marine Corps, as the case may be, in the grade, and with the date of rank in that grade, in which the officer is serving on the day before such original appointment.

(2) This subsection applies to an officer of the Navy and Marine Corps who—
(A) is on the active-duty list;

(B) holds a permanent enlisted or warrant officer grade;

(C) is designated for limited duty under subsection (a) of section 5596 of this title; and

(D) is serving in the grade of lieutenant commander or commander, or in the grade of major or lieutenant colonel, under a temporary appointment under subsection (d) of section 5596 of this title.

10 U.S. Code § 5589 - Regular Navy and Regular Marine Corps: officers designated for limited duty

and

(a) Under such regulations as he may prescribe, the Secretary of the Navy may make temporary appointments of officers designated for limited duty in the Regular Navy in grades not above lieutenant and in the Regular Marine Corps in grades not above captain from sources authorized under section 5589 of this title. Such appointments shall be made by warrant if in the grade of warrant officer, W–1, and by commission if in a higher grade.

10 U.S. Code § 5596 - Navy and Marine Corps: temporary appointments of officers designated for limited duty

Sounds very very wrong though. They couldn't find a commissioned officer to hold the position?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

1: when will they learn that someone will 'out' them eventually?

2: when will someone public come out and say, "I'm a liar" vs "I made a mistake"?

Washington state pol resigns over alleged military service tall tales | Fox News

 

[pardus]

1: when will they learn that someone will 'out' them eventually?

2: when will someone public come out and say, "I'm a liar" vs "I made a mistake"?

Washington state pol resigns over alleged military service tall tales | Fox News

Well at least the cunt resigned. Fuck'm.

 

[Teufel]

"Temporarily made second lieutenant," in the modern Army? That's an interesting claim. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.

I have heard of it happening but not since Korea or Vietnam. I knew a Marine who was battle field commissioned in Korea to 2nd Lt, picked up 1st Lt before being reverted back to SSgt after the war. He was promoted to Sergeant Major after Vietnam but retired at his highest rank.....1st Lt. It's not everyday you see a 1st Lt with a Bronze Star (with V of course), 5 Purple Hearts and a Good Conduct Medal with more stars than the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

 

[Salt USMC]

5 CARs would be insanely suspect.

 

[Teufel]

5 CARs would be insanely suspect.

Extremely suspect. I've seen Marines with multiple CARs but it's very rare to see more than 2. I knew a MSgt who had a CAR from Bosnia, Somalia, OIF and OEF. He also had 9 sea service deployment ribbons.

Here is one for you. I had a Marine check into platoon with an achievement medal with a V on it, CAR, 2 national defense medals and all the assorted Desert Storm medals.. He had just graduated the School of Infantry. My platoon sergeant obviously tore into him for wearing awards that he didn't rate. Turns out he did earn them. The Marine deployed to Desert Shield/Storm as an 0311 squad leader and left active duty as a Sergeant. Ten years later he found new employment running drugs from Florida to New York. He was arrested in Georgia at some point and the judge, also a Marine Corps veteran, gave him a choice. Seven years in prison or seven years in the Corps. The Marine Corps brought him back as a PFC and made him go back to SOI because of his break in service. He told us everyday that he made the wrong choice. Not the drug running. Coming back in the Marine Corps.

 

[compforce]

Extremely suspect. I've seen Marines with multiple CARs but it's very rare to see more than 2. I knew a MSgt who had a CAR from Bosnia, Somalia, OIF and OEF. He also had 9 sea service deployment ribbons.

Here is one for you. I had a Marine check into platoon with an achievement medal with a V on it, CAR, 2 national defense medals and all the assorted Desert Storm medals.. He had just graduated the School of Infantry. My platoon sergeant obviously tore into him for wearing awards that he didn't rate. Turns out he did earn them. The Marine deployed to Desert Shield/Storm as an 0311 squad leader and left active duty as a Sergeant. Ten years later he found new employment running drugs from Florida to New York. He was arrested in Georgia at some point and the judge, also a Marine Corps veteran, gave him a choice. Seven years in prison or seven years in the Corps. The Marine Corps brought him back as a PFC and made him go back to SOI because of his break in service. He told us everyday that he made the wrong choice. Not the drug running. Coming back in the Marine Corps.

heh, I was that guy (not the drug running/sentencing part). Showed up at Group day 1 with CIB, 101st combat patch and Air Assault on my uniform as a PFC. Note that I didn't have to go back through Basic so this was quite literally day 1. I was pulled aside more than once that weekend by section NCOs...

We had a guy show up at the 101st as a new PV2 with a CIB. He was in his early 50's. Turned out he was a Viet Nam Vet w/ a Silver Star that got an age waiver due to the award. He had gotten out with 12 years and came back to finish out his retirement. They made him the BDE CDR's driver 3 months later.

 

[Devildoc]

I did not have a CAR, did not have a device with V or any of the "hero" awards. But I have this story: I was a corpsman, for a long time. Long enough to get a decent variety and volume of ribbons/medals, and earn my FMF device. I get my commission into the Navy Reserve, show up first drill into a brand new unit, in khakis sporting Ensign bars, wearing my ribbons and device. No one tore into me or yelled at me but I did have a chat with just about every chief-on-up at the reserve center, and once I explained what was what, it was all a non-issue.

That was the biggest mistake of my professional Navy life. Not wearing my junk, but getting the commission.

 

[Yellow Bastard]

I've seen so many poser videos online but only met one personally.

Last year I thru hiked the Appalachian Trail. My second night on trail I met two guys at this shelter. Firstly, they had taken up the entire second "floor" of the shelter. They had their gear everywhere, and not in a neat fashion. One of the packs was the new pack we started getting issued in the Marines only in Army camo. Other hikers told me they had ventured into town and left their stuff there, unattended. I later learned they had also taken a few days at the shelter which was probably why they had their stuff everywhere.

So they come back. The guy who owned the Army pack was wearing a bunch of military clothing as well. They were both visibly out of shape, the non Army dude was tired from previous days of hiking which is why they spent a few days there, to rest up. Anyways, I end up talking to the Army dude for a quick second. He said they were also thru hiking the AT and he planned to do the Sea to Sea Route in the future (a 7700 mile trail).

I inevitably ask him what his MOS was. He hesitated for a quick second and then stuttered out "special ops sniper". I give him and dumb look and instead of calling him out I just removed my gear from the shelter and made camp 30 yards away.

Once I was in NC I got a text from a fellow hiker who wasn't far behind me. He said he ran into the same two guys at this hostel and there was no way that they had made X amount of miles in Y amount of days to get there, given what we knew about them and the miles we were putting out. Which means they had been skipping sections of the trail while still claiming to be thru hikers, which is a big no no in the trail world.

 

[AWP]

It isn't every day you can laugh at a poser, but this....this is hilarious.

‘Worst photoshop job ever’

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I submit to you, the greatest Stolen Valor dude ever - most of you won't be able to get past about a minute, but I do love the occasional reference to Top Gun! The dude talking to him is pretty chill about it, (I hate the "yellers").

The saddest part to me is obviously this dude is "off"...shame on whomever is in charge of his care and let's him go out like that.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1095487550503804