Poser Busting

The usual career Progression of a CIA Librarian:

BUDS
SEAL TEAM even number team leader
TOP GUN instructor
SEAL TEAM even number CDR
Team Leader at SAD Unit 7.....shhhhh!!!
TOP GUN CDR
CDR SAD Unit 7.....shhhhhh!!!!
CIA Librarian
SHIP or BOAT or PLANE named after you
Old folks home


:-":ninja::wall::zzz::blkeye:
 
Ooh-Rah said:
Saw this pic on the net this morning, he was shown on one of the New Years Eve broadcasts last night.
- folks are throwing out the 'poser' tag because he appears too young to be a 7 striped Sgt. Major - (even enlisting at 18 he'd be closer to 50 than he would be 40)

The man looks pretty fucking squared away to me, Semper Fi Marine!

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Based on service stripes he's got 28+ years in the Corps, which would make him around 46 if he joined at 18. And MasterGuns chevrons. I've seen plenty of guys in their mid-40s who are lean and fit. And everything on his uniform looks to be immaculate and according to regs, right up to the measurements between ribbons and badges. I'm with you, this is one squared-away, jump-qualled, fit, youthful-looking forty-something E9.

When a poser tries to trick himself out with this much bling, there's usually something that's half-assed about his set-up. This guy could be on a recruiting poster.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
I submit to you, the greatest Stolen Valor dude ever - most of you won't be able to get past about a minute, but I do love the occasional reference to Top Gun! The dude talking to him is pretty chill about it, (I hate the "yellers").

The saddest part to me is obviously this dude is "off"...shame on whomever is in charge of his care and let's him go out like that.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1095487550503804
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To get back on track, it would be interesting to see if anything comes of the guy and his costume. He probably has a fair amount of $$ spent on the real badges, and fake ID's. I'd like to hear what the lady holding some of his stuff has to say. His costume is one of the more expensive I've seen, still he should invest in a better SF display ;-).
 
Just seems too over the top to seem legit. Why not just understand there's a regulation dictating proper wear and appearance and then maybe look at some pictures. We just had a SEAL get an MOH.... so why not start there or something?

Unless he is completely legit and more on the Mel Gibson from Conspiracy Theory side of the house... who knows.
 
Florida173 said:
Just seems too over the top to seem legit. Why not just understand there's a regulation dictating proper wear and appearance and then maybe look at some pictures. We just had a SEAL get an MOH.... so why not start there or something?

Unless he is completely legit and more on the Mel Gibson from Conspiracy Theory side of the house... who knows.
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They are not reality based in their thinking. Their grandiosity takes them above and beyond as they decide how to present themselves in costume. They are not in uniform, and they know it. No matter what you say about how unreal they appear, the mystical "above and beyond" becomes their defense. "Of course you don't know about it, how could you?" This guy was pressured on many levels, and there was no amount of reason that was going to stick. He was miles ahead in his pitch. You would be trying to reason out his badges, and he was already off into CIA land. They hate who they are, and look to square that with costume and selling a false front. It pumps them up, but the reality of self dislike always comes back. Some get pretty good at it, and can get support in their "story" as long as they don't go too crazy. Still, at the end of the day, they are who they are, and they are not happy people. This guy is pretty unstable, with so much visual overload; even his watch was grandiose. He will likely be taken to task by those who do that. For some, when you fracture the false reality they have created, anger and depression come to the surface, with one suicide that I know of.
 
Red Flag 1 said:
They are not reality based in their thinking. Their grandiosity takes them above and beyond as they decide how to present themselves in costume. They are not in uniform, and they know it. No matter what you say about how unreal they appear, the mystical "above and beyond" becomes their defense. "Of course you don't know about it, how could you?" This guy was pressured on many levels, and there was no amount of reason that was going to stick. He was miles ahead in his pitch. You would be trying to reason out his badges, and he was already off into CIA land. They hate who they are, and look to square that with costume and selling a false front. It pumps them up, but the reality of self dislike always comes back. Some get pretty good at it, and can get support in their "story" as long as they don't go too crazy. Still, at the end of the day, they are who they are, and they are not happy people. This guy is pretty unstable, with so much visual overload; even his watch was grandiose. He will likely be taken to task by those who do that. For some, when you fracture the false reality they have created, anger and depression come to the surface, with one suicide that I know of.
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I could probably draw parallels between what you said and the transgendered community, but that'd likely be very non-Politically Correct of me... Who are we to question their authenticity.

On a side-note, the fact that these uniforms are often times so grandiose and unrealistic, might have an easy excuse of it being a costume, or them"in character," that they are above reproach.
 
Florida173 said:
I could probably draw parallels between what you said and the transgendered community, but that'd likely be very non-Politically Correct of me... Who are we to question their authenticity.

On a side-note, the fact that these uniforms are often times so grandiose and unrealistic, might have an easy excuse of it being a costume, or them"in character," that they are above reproach.
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That is, in part, the goal. I have more awards, decs, and Qual badges than you could ever dream of. Thus "I'll try to explain, but I can't tell you everything"; wink, wink, nudge nudge. They will use the cloak of "classified", and you have no way of really knowing now. More cloak of mystical aura to hide behind. You will not likely catch them in a lie they can't shake off, or cut through the BS in a short period of time. It is a con, and they know when to break contact, and run away if necessary.

The guys dealing with the "Colonel" in a Navy uniform, did a great job of documenting for later use. They did exceptionally well in exposing the badges, and his bogus ID cards. Nice clear pics with name, photo and "Agency/Dept" ID cards. I would like to have heard, " Can I see your military ID?", and see what he did with that. This video is interesting to watch as he wove through his maze of qualifications, and alleged knowledge. Layer upon layer of more misdirection in rapid fire, "pressured" verbage, and visual misdirections. I hope this ends up in getting himself some help. Now if he is somehow making money off all this; he needs to break out in handcuffs.

I think your transgender comparison carries some weight, but there is a lot more science and forethought before the process gets too far along. A good case to look at is the SEAL who went trrough the transgender process. The reason they are uncomfortable in their own skin does have subjective, and objective clues. There are some who have gone this route for nothing more than attention. What does challenge the attention seeking only, is the number of specialists that are part of the process. These include endocronology folks, surgeons, internal med, and psych to name part of the crew. Considering all this there is less risk of the change to be done for attention. Unlike the posers, who hate who they are, the transgender patients have an identity conflict that is very specific. I can't see the transgender patients in the same boat as the Stolen Valor posers.

That's my $.02 on the matter.
 
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Marine0311 said:
lol this is gold!
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Did you go to his youtube channel or just watch the video? The channel is pure gold, the video by itself would have been pretty easy. So far they have:

Taken over the channel
Deleted 2000+ videos from the channel
Tracked down his real name (Johnny Elmo Sheppard Jr)
Tracked down his real address... (a single-wide in North Carolina)
Forced him to move by publishing the address in places all the people would hate him

The Brotherhood (No Longer Johnyb34434's account)
 
compforce said:
Did you go to his youtube channel or just watch the video? The channel is pure gold, the video by itself would have been pretty easy. So far they have:

Taken over the channel
Deleted 2000+ videos from the channel
Tracked down his real name (Johnny Elmo Sheppard Jr)
Tracked down his real address... (a single-wide in North Carolina)
Forced him to move by publishing the address in places all the people would hate him

The Brotherhood (No Longer Johnyb34434's account)
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I just watched the video. I will check out the rest haha.
 

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