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While I loved Top Gun & Top Gun: Maverick, I've been reading articles this morning about a possible Top Gun III. I don't know...I like the way TG: Maverick ended. Maybe leave it at that?
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I have read this too, but without Cruise/Maverick, and looking at other character story lines. I see a franchise opportunity. Rooster and Hangman kind of plot.
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Just, no. Full stop. Know when to just walk away. This is part of Hollywood's problem.
Make a whole new movie if you want, just stop trying to make everything a franchise and ride coattails. It's lazy and uninspired.
Can anyone name a series where the 3rd+ movie was as good as or better than the original - assuming the original was at least marginal or better as well? I can't.
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That might be the best bet. I read today an idea of the plot covering the time between TG I &II. I don't think thats a good idea because Cruise has aged too much to play that part and nobody else really could pull it off.
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Jennifer Connelly again.
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I am not sure how you top TG/TG:M. I don't mind more movies with quality naval aviation, but don't know how I feel about a franchise.
Agreed about Cruise's age. He cannot be in another. But I would dig Connelly, yeah.
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Agreed. The Mission Impossible movies are decent, but being a mythical James Bond-ish type character is a different animal. Like 007 movies, its subjective which movie is better. But Maverick is about a life- like character and his time has just about ran out.
"Hmm, how do we explain Cruise flying after 90 years in uniform?"
"And in a war that doesn't involve China, Russia, or the ME?"
"Strap into the cockpit, for the most epic Top Gun yet. Top Gun 3: Stop Loss. Maverick returns for his most dangerous mission ever in the bloody skies over Paraguay."
"And in a war that doesn't involve China, Russia, or the ME?"
"Strap into the cockpit, for the most epic Top Gun yet. Top Gun 3: Stop Loss. Maverick returns for his most dangerous mission ever in the bloody skies over Paraguay."
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I thought Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick were dumb.
There. I said it. Dumb. Any halfwit could’ve written the dialogue. And motorcycles aren’t allowed on the flight line, asshole…be advised.
Y’know what was a better movie? Predator. Yeah. With Arnold. And Ventura. And my man, Carl fucking Weathers.
That was a movie.
There. I said it. Dumb. Any halfwit could’ve written the dialogue. And motorcycles aren’t allowed on the flight line, asshole…be advised.
Y’know what was a better movie? Predator. Yeah. With Arnold. And Ventura. And my man, Carl fucking Weathers.
That was a movie.
It was way too fucking corny. Hot Shots the parody was at least meant to be funny.
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One of the best movies ever....
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It never gets old. I only have a handful of comedy DVDs I keep so I can pop in and watch anytime. This one..Planes, Tranes, and Automobiles, and Uncle Buck.
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Saw Guardians of the Galaxy 3 over the weekend. It was entertaining and worth seeing if you like the franchise; a fitting ending.
It was probably a good way to wrap up my interest in Marvel; it's pretty much run it's course with me. If there was any doubt, the trailer for The Marvels movie put the final nails in the coffin - what a complete dumpster fire of trash.
It was probably a good way to wrap up my interest in Marvel; it's pretty much run it's course with me. If there was any doubt, the trailer for The Marvels movie put the final nails in the coffin - what a complete dumpster fire of trash.
We watched GOTG 3 and, really enjoyed it. Then we saw there is a GOTG Christmas special. That inserts between 2 and 3! It gives context to the character dynamic that we were scratching our heads about.
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We will see GOTG 3 at some point, but I totally agree about that abomination 'The Marvels.'
Gerard Butler…so given his track record lately, this could suck…or have potential.
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I hope the Marvels movie is good, if only because I really like the Kamela Khan character. I won't hold my breath though.
It's gotten to the point where it's only about 1 in 3 marvel movies that I actually enjoy. Thor, Ant-Man, and Dr. Strange were all "meh". The Eternals sucked. Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Black Widow were all OK, but not really something id want to rewatch alone.
Spiderman is the only movie out of the last 8 (haven't seen GotG) that I actually enjoyed.
It's gotten to the point where it's only about 1 in 3 marvel movies that I actually enjoy. Thor, Ant-Man, and Dr. Strange were all "meh". The Eternals sucked. Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Black Widow were all OK, but not really something id want to rewatch alone.
Spiderman is the only movie out of the last 8 (haven't seen GotG) that I actually enjoyed.
The only reason people still watch Marvel movies is inertia. If you dropped some of them as stand alone with no prep whatsoever like Ms Marvel, The Marvels, etc., the numbers would be horrible. The Disney+ shows without the movies...horrible. Sure, the movies lead into the shows as part of a multiverse or whatever, but your pre-Endgame movies could generally stand on their own. The new crop is not in the same situation. They suck and they only reason people watch them is brand/ loyalty inertia, thinking the next movie or series is the "next big thing." Problem is, there is no next big thing.
The Marvel franchise might continue to make money, but it is otherwise dead. Even then, the money is from people clinging to a 10-20 year old dream. People hoping for a cameo or whatever. Hell, people are hyped about alligator Loki, like...come the fuck on, people. You might as well try to solve an Amber Alert by surveilling the local day care from a blacked-out '86 Ford Econoline van with "free candy" painted on the side.
The Marvel franchise might continue to make money, but it is otherwise dead. Even then, the money is from people clinging to a 10-20 year old dream. People hoping for a cameo or whatever. Hell, people are hyped about alligator Loki, like...come the fuck on, people. You might as well try to solve an Amber Alert by surveilling the local day care from a blacked-out '86 Ford Econoline van with "free candy" painted on the side.
I agree that with the first quote that Marvel movies no longer stand on their own, but I disagree with the second; these movies/shows actually need to be more willing to do things like Alligator Loki.
Comic book movies should be allowed to be fucking weird. Shit, squirrel girl has been allowed to beat Thanos in the comics.
Disney needs to stop making 47-interconnected properties over 20 years and just do one offs for a while.
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