The China Thread (Threat)

[R.Caerbannog]

There’re not stockpiling iron ore, they’re using it in manufacturing appliances etc. & the coal isn’t being offloaded to be used, it’s just sitting on ships offshore. The potential risk is that the natives will get restless as they slowly freeze due to the lack of coal for their power stations in the provinces mentioned above. As discussed, Chine prides itself on civil harmony, but this may change as the northern winter bites.

Reason I mentioned stockpiles, was I had heard that China kept a strategic supply of goods like pork, sugar, ect. The ships full of coal and ore, off China's shores, reminded me of Stalin sending trainloads of materials to the Germans up-to and during Operation Barbarossa.

In my mind, I'm seeing those loaded ships as possible stockpiles that the CCP can seize if things go south. That and the the way energy is being rationed makes me think that China is up to no good.

Given China's level of foreign infiltration, the danger to me is that the CCP thinks they've bought the US presidency. Which in China's eyes would give them leeway to do what they want with in y'alls neighborhood.

 

[CQB]

I’d disagree with the coal onboard as a stockpile. There’s a trade dispute with us at the moment & coal is part of it. The PRC won’t relent on this part of the dispute & they’re all owning coal from everywhere else. As we’re a middle power & they see themselves as the top of the tree, they won’t budge on this. We should kowtow, tremble & obey to the might of the Central Nation.

 

[SpitfireV]

The food stockpiles thing I don't know how much stock (lol) can be put into that either. The pork is certainly possible to store a long time- look up 腊肉 it's a cured pork belly that will last a long time. Also, delicious and my favourite Chinese meat.

Anyway, while the pork could conceivably be stored in case of emergency I don't see them being able to store enough for more than a day or two for one city. Which leads me to the other staple, rice. I say rice but I have rice and flour in mind when I'm thinking about this. The sheer space needed to store that much rice or flour would be immense and I think there would also have been strong rumours of what the massive as hell government shed would be for. There have also been rice shortages in the past as farmers can't keep to demand with one reason being urban migration. I doubt the CCP would have been able to siphon off rice (I'm not sure how much flour is produced in China) to that large extent.

That said it makes sense for the central government to have food stockpiles in Beijing. That's SOP anywhere but I wouldn't expect them to dish these out to the provinces since that's not really how the CCP is set up.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I’d disagree with the coal onboard as a stockpile. There’s a trade dispute with us at the moment & coal is part of it. The PRC won’t relent on this part of the dispute & they’re all owning coal from everywhere else. As we’re a middle power & they see themselves as the top of the tree, they won’t budge on this. We should kowtow, tremble & obey to the might of the Central Nation.

I get what you're saying brother, but I really think this trade war regarding ore and coal is a small part of a broader play. For the past 10 years China has been steadily stockpiling grains, natural resources, and Western politicians. Given recent events in the United States, this may China's best chance to exert it's will over AUS and their surrounding areas.

Right now I'm seeing three possible outcomes, two of which will be disastrous and the third may only buy your nation time against encroachment.

1st Guess: The people behind the US electoral coup, run by Chicom sympathetics and globalists, gain control of power. China starts taking chunks outta AUS and the surrounding area through politics, trade, or defense. Think death by a thousand cuts, while the US deals with internal power struggles.

2nd Guess: Civil war breaks out in the US. Depending on it's length and violence our forces may not be able to project force or force will be projected inward. For you guys it may mean fighting alone and then figuring where you stand with the victor.

3rd Guess: Coup is averted in the US, followed by a purge/exile of CCP sympathizers. You guys won't be alone in facing China, but you'll still have to contend with a generation of "demoralized" citizens, CCP infiltrators, and the Wests Chicom outcasts. Barring a complete economic collapse, China consolidates it's forces. They can either turn northwards or continue plying soft power.

 

[CQB]

The pushback has started here & we’ve cancelled visas etc. which has occurred in the US as well. I don’t think it’s as bleak as you make it, it will be a continuation of the Sun Tzu principal of combative coexistence.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I hope so too, but I'm skeptical the CCP is going to let their population age gracefully or let go of their territorial ambitions.

 

[RackMaster]

China would still be getting a lot of imports from Canada. They are our second largest trading partner and we have a sympathetic moron in charge.

China produces a lot of wheat, enough to start shipping to Canada and we don't need it.


https://www.producer.com/news/china-ships-flour-to-canada/

 

[CQB]

I think you’re coal exports have just increased.

 

[Kaldak]

I think you’re coal exports have just increased.

Your**

 

[CQB]

Your**

That’s a bit sketchy mate, can you elaborate?

 

[RackMaster]

I think you’re coal exports have just increased.

Exactly that. Since Trudeau has land locked and fucked over the oil sands, Alberta is expanding coal. Vancouver hates the idea of bitumen being exported through their port but they're cool with coal going to China.

As oil prices languish, Alberta sees its future in a 'coal rush'

Canada's Teck sees higher China met coal sales as Australia hit by import curbs | S&P Global Platts

 

[Kaldak]

That’s a bit sketchy mate, can you elaborate?

You should have used "your" not "you're" in that context. Unless I'm grossly misunderstanding your intent.

 

[CQB]

Oh ok, as being a grammar Nazism is my bag as well. I will concede the own goal.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

China would still be getting a lot of imports from Canada. They are our second largest trading partner and we have a sympathetic moron in charge.

China produces a lot of wheat, enough to start shipping to Canada and we don't need it.


China ships flour to Canada | The Western Producer

That is terrifying. Not cause China is exporting wheat, but because of how notoriously tainted Chinese food products are. Article mentioned that they were export small amounts of wheat for Mainlanders in Canada. Any word if they're doing larger exports for non?

Exactly that. Since Trudeau has land locked and fucked over the oil sands, Alberta is expanding coal. Vancouver hates the idea of bitumen being exported through their port but they're cool with coal going to China.

As oil prices languish, Alberta sees its future in a 'coal rush'

Canada's Teck sees higher China met coal sales as Australia hit by import curbs | S&P Global Platts

That sucks dude. It's almost like Trudeau wants to cripple out your energy sector. Not to sound paranoid... but could crashing Canada's oil sands, while pivoting to Chicom centered coal export, lead to a fire sale of oil sands assets?

Cause I'm thinking Trudeau and the coastal libs may be trying to screw over inner Canada. All while sucking on the teat of the Chicoms.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

 

[amlove21]

That is terrifying. Not cause China is exporting wheat, but because of how notoriously tainted Chinese food products are. Article mentioned that they were export small amounts of wheat for Mainlanders in Canada. Any word if they're doing larger exports for non?


That sucks dude. It's almost like Trudeau wants to cripple out your energy sector. Not to sound paranoid... but could crashing Canada's oil sands, while pivoting to Chicom centered coal export, lead to a fire sale of oil sands assets?

Cause I'm thinking Trudeau and the coastal libs may be trying to screw over inner Canada. All while sucking on the teat of the Chicoms.

This. This is your magnum opus. I just... it’s perfect.

 

[AWP]

One could make the argument that the greatest threat to North America is...Canada.

 

[RackMaster]

One could make the argument that the greatest threat to North America is...Canada.

Shhhhh... It's actually Mexico, don't you remember Mexico?

 

[GOTWA]

Shhhhh... It's actually Mexico, don't you remember Mexico?

I was trying to come up with something witty about never banging a Canadian. Then I remembered that one time I was in Spain, of all places.

 

[AWP]

If I can wake up thanks to the time change, I'll post why the Chinese on the N. American continent is stupid idea, aka SIGINT Matters, aka RF has a finite range/ distance..