The China Thread (Threat)

[SpitfireV]

That seems directed at me and it is certainly not the case. I have an evidence based approach to life. Do not mistake not accepting the first thing I read or hear without checking as any kind of saving face for the CCP.

Thank you for the video. I'll try and watch it tonight.

 

[frostyred]

I've heard that about the crypto stuff for years now (in general not specifically to China). I don't know much about it honestly because it's not really an area of interest but if it ever comes off it'll be the proverbial broadsword in some ways.

It's very much due to the government knowing this is the pathway to cyber-superiority, and it certainly helps when the monolithic government can take carte blanche with forcing people out of areas via moving funding around very blatantly, and allow for ethical... shortcuts.

We truly are being outclassed by them in many ways just due to their beast not being on chain.

I wish the world would just pony-up and take on the CCP.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

For the board:
Nice episode of Tim Pool with the people from China Watch; Uyghurs, Australian trade exports, the NBA, and a bunch of other topics are covered here.

It's very much due to the government knowing this is the pathway to cyber-superiority, and it certainly helps when the monolithic government can take carte blanche with forcing people out of areas via moving funding around very blatantly, and allow for ethical... shortcuts.

We truly are being outclassed by them in many ways just due to their beast not being on chain.

I wish the world would just pony-up and take on the CCP.

The world won't, at least not while it's leaders have been bought by Chinese silver and it's citizens placated by slave made goods. Even speaking harshly of China is enough to gain condemnation.

If anything, it's been hilariously ironic that some of China's most ardent advocates have turned a blind eye to the horrors of the CCP. The NBA holding training camps and Disney filming movies in Xinjiang, home of communist concentration camps, is insanely ironic considering their posturing in the US.
Kids Abused At NBA Youth Training Camps In China; Employee Says It Was Like Working In ‘World War II Germany,’ Report Claims

 

[ThunderHorse]

Did China buy the New York Times? WTFF

https://twitter.com/x/status/1346255681255403520

 

[CQB]

Oh I doubt it's a CCP sanctioned smuggling ring. But it's definitely coming here from there.

I’d agree there. Look like Taiwanese chemists are working with the Triads & getting creative with different precursors.

Manufacturing, Trafficking, and Selling: The Role of Taiwanese Cartels in Asia’s Meth Supply Chain - 報導者 The Reporter

 

[ThunderHorse]

China continuing to post propaganda on US Social Media platforms going unchecked. What a fucking bizarro world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

 

[SpitfireV]

That's quite on the nose really.

 

[Board and Seize]

That's quite on the nose really.

Kind of like their NYE flex in Wuhan

 

[SpitfireV]

Yeah I'd be interested to know how they've teed that one tbh.

 

[CQB]

China continuing to post propaganda on US Social Media platforms going unchecked. What a fucking bizarro world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

Not as good as Russia, but not bad. Sterilization equaling emancipation! Rock on PRC! Rock on.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

China continuing to post propaganda on US Social Media platforms going unchecked. What a fucking bizarro world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

I mean, do you need more proof that big tech is firmly in lockstep with the Chicoms? Think about it, who do you think gave China the technology and know how to develop the PRC's social credit system?

Twitter, Google, Facebook, ect, are not our allies. Big tech is not a friend to democracy.

Not as good as Russia, but not bad. Sterilization equaling emancipation! Rock on PRC! Rock on.

Aww, 'Siri' is sad to hear you say that.

(-10 social credit points for speaking critically of the party.)

 

[Gunz]

I’d agree there. Look like Taiwanese chemists are working with the Triads & getting creative with different precursors.

Manufacturing, Trafficking, and Selling: The Role of Taiwanese Cartels in Asia’s Meth Supply Chain - 報導者 The Reporter

Taiwan has become to meth distribution in Asia what Columbia's Uraba Antioquia has become to cocaine distribution to EU and the US. The transshipment hub of product; the former from the Golden Triangle, the latter from Peru's VRAEM.

China continuing to post propaganda on US Social Media platforms going unchecked. What a fucking bizarro world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347247602094534658

It's interesting how the PRC is able to inject little doses of democracy into its population and, by doing so, actually tighten its control over them by appearing to remove the reasons for dissension. Brilliant, nuanced and sinister.

 

[frostyred]

I mean, do you need more proof that big tech is firmly in lockstep with the Chicoms? Think about it, who do you think gave China the technology and know how to develop the PRC's social credit system?

Twitter, Google, Facebook, ect, are not our allies. Big tech is not a friend to democracy.

... you really have NO idea what's happened in Silicon Valley for the last 20-30 years, do you?

The Chinese Communist Party is very VERY on record of using a general lack of concern for WTO principles, disrespect for IP regulations, blatant corporate espionage, and then just manipulation of young international students who come to the U.S. for school to get out of the ridiculous University system in the Mainland, and go on to work in tech, then decide they want to go back (usually recreating similar/the same technology in the Mainland, especially over the last 10-15 years, as the Central Government has incentivized it and quite literally force-formed its own Silicon Valley-esque area).

Moreover, if those Big Tech companies were in bed with the Chinese Government, don't you think we'd still be winning in the cyber domain right now?

Do you think Google would be representing such a low market share for the search engines? Or that they would have killed their big projects there, such as Dragonfly?

Or that Facebook would be completely banned inside the firewall?

Or that Twitter, as a company, would be doing everything they can to squash influence ops being conducted OPENLY on the platform?
50 Cent Party - Wikipedia
Little Pink - Wikipedia
Disclosing networks of state-linked information operations we’ve removed

Saying that Big Tech is not a friend to Democracy is like saying that firearms are not friends to Democracy because people use them to commit mass shootings; You're placing a morality judgement onto a non-organic system that can be misused.

Now, do we have some work to do in order to protect our data privacy, from a legislative standpoint? Absolutely. Is that a VERY fine tightrope? 100%. But to generalize and say Big Tech is part of the secret global cabal? You put a loooooot more competency in the Zuck and Jack Dorsey and all the people at Google (which, I know a few from time spent around that area) who are VERY against the evil that is the CCP and what that party has done to an otherwise great country.

 

[ThunderHorse]

If you don't think Big Tech is bowing to China, you should probably go buy the bridge the dude on the corner has a deed for. There's plenty of evidence and it's all in the open.

 

[frostyred]

If you don't think Big Tech is bowing to China, you should probably go buy the bridge the dude on the corner has a deed for. There's plenty of evidence and it's all in the open.

I'm just primarily a China analyst... but what would I know?

 

[ThunderHorse]

That's cool. Don't get me wrong. But in the open you have NYT, Facebook, and Twitter literally allowing them to A) Bold Faced Lie B ) Deploy Propaganda.

And at the same time, de-platform a sitting president. I just want consistency, and I know I'm not going to get that. However, where are iPhones made? Where are the majority of Apple Products made? Where are a majority of Shoes made? Did you not watch the NBA kow tow to the PRC when one its GMs fired a tweet in support of Hong Kong's Pro Democracy Demonstrators?

Don't mind me.

 

[CQB]

Combative cooperation is as old as China itself.

 

[Jaknight]

Didn’t Google help China build their firewall? I remember seeing some guy talk about that in some video

 

[SpitfireV]

@frostyred if you keep that up you'll be joining me as a CCP stooge.

 

[RackMaster]

@frostyred if you keep that up you'll be joining me as a CCP stooge.

You're not a stooge, you're a Fanboy.