The China Thread (Threat)

[R.Caerbannog]

Shhhhh... It's actually Mexico, don't you remember Mexico?

The CCP has a pretty large footprint in funneling arms and fentanyl to the cartels. Not to mention Mainland Chinese corporations staking out business claims and buying politicians in Mexico. Ed Calderon has some interesting information on the prevalence of Chicom made arms in Mexico.

If I can wake up thanks to the time change, I'll post why the Chinese on the N. American continent is stupid idea, aka SIGINT Matters, aka RF has a finite range/ distance..

They're already here and they operate in plain sight. Go to any large college or university for a small example of this. Heck... that leaked list, of +2 million CCP members, has shown how far they've infiltrated every facet of our private and governmental organizations.

SIGINT matters when your enemy is being targeted, not when your enemy has been welcomed in with open arms.

 

[SpitfireV]

All the reporting I've seen has shown raw chemicals coming from the chemical factories themselves for production in Mexico by the cartels. Please provide an authorative source and please don't tell me to go research it myself or- fair warning - you're likely to get a rude response.

Re the arms coming directly from the CCP again please provide the same. Just because there is a large amount of a particular country's firearms in a region doesnt necessarily point to organised supply. There are a lot of US firearms in Mexico too I understand and I've seen German ones too but there is no suggestion those governments are supplying.

 

[RackMaster]

DEA links fentanyl to China.

The China Connection: How One D.E.A. Agent Cracked a Global Fentanyl Ring (Published 2019)


And in Canada from China.

Canada needs to ‘hold China accountable’ for flow of fentanyl: Scheer - National | Globalnews.ca

 

[SpitfireV]

DEA links fentanyl to China.

The China Connection: How One D.E.A. Agent Cracked a Global Fentanyl Ring (Published 2019)


And in Canada from China.

Canada needs to ‘hold China accountable’ for flow of fentanyl: Scheer - National | Globalnews.ca

That first one is a great article but it doesn't show or even imply any kind of CCP involvement. It also backed up what I said about the chemical companies with the exception of finished product leaving China vis a vis raw material.

 

[RackMaster]

That first one is a great article but it doesn't show or even imply any kind of CCP involvement. It also backed up what I said about the chemical companies with the exception of finished product leaving China vis a vis raw material.

Oh I doubt it's a CCP sanctioned smuggling ring. But it's definitely coming here from there.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

China is still very much a command economy. Nothing really happens without the party's say so, especially the manufacture and shipment of pharmaceutical grade chemicals like fentanyl.

Graphic below is a pretty good representation of the CCP and why they do the shit they do.

 

[SpitfireV]

That's not a response and it's also not entirely true because it's a nixed economy. Please give me some evidence to support your assertions.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Graphic below is a pretty good representation of the CCP and why they do the shit they do.
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Posting arguably racist memes is how you are responding now?

 

[amlove21]

Posting arguably racist memes is how you are responding now?

Now now now. I’m sure @R.Caerbannog has a perfectly good explanation for his borderline generalization of a pronunciation of a word that would be, categorically, considered a slight against Asians. In a thread about China.

A country he has generalized for months as hating.

I’m willing to wait on the explanation. For now, my evil rabbit friend- here’s a point. You’re over the line.

Can’t wait to see if we need to go further as you explain your meaning!

ETA- I will go with "Gee, guys. That was a typo! And it happened to be the ONE LETTER Asians can't pronounce."

 

[racing_kitty]

It’s a direct quote from a Hong Kong protester. You can argue that wypipo should pull the missing L in the meme, but the sentiment is most certainly the same.

 

[amlove21]

It’s a direct quote from a Hong Kong protester. You can argue that wypipo should pull the missing L in the meme, but the sentiment is most certainly the same.

Is this a cross thread reference to the China thread?

ETA- look at the title. Of the video. You posted. There’s an L. Yeah? The direct quote is ‘China is asshole’, but he’s not a native English speaker. He’s Chinese. He pronounces words differently. A way to make the meme to ‘directly quote’ the speaker is ‘China is asshole’. The actual title of the video.

 

[racing_kitty]

Is this a cross thread reference to the China thread?

ETA- look at the title. Of the video. You posted. There’s an L. Yeah?

I can read, yeah? There’s a reason I chose that one, and not just because it was the first, and shortest clip I came across. I look at it as being in the same vein as “Don’t rap the N word when Caucasian.”

Problem?
ETA:
The only problem I see is I likely have posted this in the wrong thread. Not a drunk post, but move it accordingly if need be

 

[amlove21]

I can read, yeah? There’s a reason I chose that one, and not just because it was the first, and shortest clip I came across. I look at it as being in the same vein as “Don’t rap the N word when Caucasian.”

Problem?

Yeah absolutely. You wanna throw your hat in the ring here, I’m down. Just wanted to make sure I knew what point your defending.

So, the meme is funny because- this Chinese non English speaker peacefully protesting against the Chinese (who will actually kill protestors for this) mispronounces a word? In his second language.

Then we knowingly disregard the racially driven trope of Asians mispronouncing R’s and L’s, with absolutely no need to do so.

One more step.

No one asked you. You responded in the wrong thread with a weak position to defend a guy that’s constantly touting bullshit. So yeah - that’s a problem.

if you want to continue the conversation, either take it to PM or continue in the correct thread, where I’ve moved it.

You know better.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Posting arguably racist memes is how you are responding now?

Now now now. I’m sure @R.Caerbannog has a perfectly good explanation for his borderline generalization of a pronunciation of a word that would be, categorically, considered a slight against Asians. In a thread about China.

A country he has generalized for months as hating.

I’m willing to wait on the explanation. For now, my evil rabbit friend- here’s a point. You’re over the line.

Can’t wait to see if we need to go further as you explain your meaning!

ETA- I will go with "Gee, guys. That was a typo! And it happened to be the ONE LETTER Asians can't pronounce."

Is this a cross thread reference to the China thread?

ETA- look at the title. Of the video. You posted. There’s an L. Yeah? The direct quote is ‘China is asshole’, but he’s not a native English speaker. He’s Chinese. He pronounces words differently. A way to make the meme to ‘directly quote’ the speaker is ‘China is asshole’. The actual title of the video.

Yeah absolutely. You wanna throw your hat in the ring here, I’m down. Just wanted to make sure I knew what point your defending.

So, the meme is funny because- this Chinese non English speaker peacefully protesting against the Chinese (who will actually kill protestors for this) mispronounces a word? In his second language.

Then we knowingly disregard the racially driven trope of Asians mispronouncing R’s and L’s, with absolutely no need to do so.

One more step.

No one asked you. You responded in the wrong thread with a weak position to defend a guy that’s constantly touting bullshit. So yeah - that’s a problem.

if you want to continue the conversation, either take it to PM or continue in the correct thread, where I’ve moved it.

You know better.

This is not up for public debate.

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Ooh Rah

 

[SpitfireV]

@R.Caerbannog why do you post in here if you won't contribute? Do you know how frustrating it is to write a post, have it totally ignored and just be met by 3rd rate memes and a deflection from the topic?

You sound like the American equivalent of a Chinese paid poster at this point in time I have to say. I know you won't reply to this but I'm asking you not to bother even engaging me in the future unless you're ready to at the very least reply to things.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

So as not to let this thread turn into the inevitable “dog pile”, @SpitfireV is the last public word on this unless by a staff member.

Anything else can be done via p.m. Normal forum rules and etiquette apply.

Moving on…

 

[Gunz]

PRC arms sales to Latin America. This article concerns trade deals and purchases, not smuggling. But I think the Cartels get more illegal weapons from North Korea and Vietnam than they do from the Chinese Triads. The article is from the US Army University Press. The table, below, is from Wikipedia.

China-Latin America Arms Sales

Primary Source
AK rifle variants (semi-automatic)	United States[8][78][79]
AK rifle variants (select-fire)	Central America, South America, Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, South Asia, East Asia[80][81]
AR-15 rifle (semi-automatic)	United States[8][82]
M16 rifle (select-fire)	purportedly Vietnam[83]
Fragmentation grenades M61/M67/MK 2/K400	United States,[84][85][86][87][88][89][90] Central America, South Korea,[91] Spain, Soviet bloc, Guatemala,[92] Vietnam,[83]Unknown[92][93]
RPG-7 /M72 LAW / M203 Grenade launchers	United States,[94] Asia, Central America/Guatemala,[92] North Korea[93][95][96][97]
Barrett M82	United States.[8][92][93][97][98][99][100][101]
M2 Carbine (select fire)	Vietnam[83]

 

[Gunz]

One of the most serious threats China poses, in my view, is their leading progress in the development of quantum computers and quantum encryption technology. We're working on it too--as is the private sector--but they've made significant breakthroughs which could lead to the ability to break any code and/or to produce unbreakable codes. It's based on quantum entanglement...a bizarre, unexplained and yet experimentally-proven hiccup in Einstein's Theories which I understand only marginally...but it's implications are startling, especially with regard to communications and encryption.

 

[SpitfireV]

I've heard that about the crypto stuff for years now (in general not specifically to China). I don't know much about it honestly because it's not really an area of interest but if it ever comes off it'll be the proverbial broadsword in some ways.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

For the board.

Interview with Ed Calderon. It's long, but I've earmarked it to start @1:32:30. Begins with the New Generation Cartel's growth, due to steady fentanyl supply, and transitions to talk of PRC involvement in Mexico. Direct reference to fentanyl coming in from China @1:36:00 and a direct reference to Chicom armament @ 1:41:30.

I'll end with this. China is literally an enemy to the free world. I don't understand the concerted effort to save face for them. Especially on these boards. The Chinese Communist Party is evil in the worst possible way.