The Trump Presidency 2.0

The idea that they've got no evidence is fucking crazy. So Epstein and Maxwell were trafficking kids, but we've got no proof of it? So how were they jailed?


The most likely thing is Patel/Bondi/etc spent years rallying to release the documents, realized it includes too many golden gooses, and they've put money/security over doing the right thing. It's the same reason nobody in the Biden admin released it.

The Q-Anon theory is somehow worse than that. Q thinks we're using child abuse material to blackmail the "deep state"? What the actual fuck, the "patriot" idea is the government is just doing what Epstein did?

I'll be amazed if it leaks while Andrews/Trump/Clinton/other high profile people on the list are still alive.
It's not coming out, the list doesn't exist in it's original form, they hate us all. That's the take. Moving on.
 
Many years ago, West Point let me teach American Politics for a semester. One of the things I remember from that course is Duverger's Law, and why it helps explain the persistence of America's two-party system.

The topic came up again recently in the context of Elon Musk's purported attempts to start a third party. I had ChatGPT write an article about why it pro0bably won't work.

Duverger’s Law: Why Elon Musk's "Third Party" Is Doomed to Fail • The Havok Journal

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Someone tell me how the Shawn Ryan with Newsom goes. Conservative shows giving that guy a platform to rehab his image is a bad idea.

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So now we care about migrants in Yurop?

ETA2: Alright this shit, not what I voted for.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/10/trump-amnesty-illegal-immigration-workers

ETA3: Future persons.


ETA 4:


Uh, I'm good with Podcast host Bongino resigning. Laura Loomer has been nothing but a divisive idiot that has truly been used by the left. She's not "loyal" to MAGA or Trump. Don't even know if she's a conservative. Does she want to be Elon's next girlfriend/Babymama?
 
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Uh, I'm good with Podcast host Bongino resigning. Laura Loomer has been nothing but a divisive idiot that has truly been used by the left. She's not "loyal" to MAGA or Trump. Don't even know if she's a conservative. Does she want to be Elon's next girlfriend/Babymama?
The podcast host appears to be the only person in the government with principles. Maybe we actually need one of those around?

Either way- don't care. The funniest possible scenario is Gaetz going to DC to take Bondi's spot, which would just be pure comedy.
 
The podcast host appears to be the only person in the government with principles. Maybe we actually need one of those around?

Either way- don't care. The funniest possible scenario is Gaetz going to DC to take Bondi's spot, which would just be pure comedy.

1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
 
AOC coming out saying the Epstein stuff is being hidden by a rapist is hilarious considering it was originally hidden by a rapist.
 
1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
Yeah man, first a Supreme Court Justice with ties to gang rape and now Gaetz, amiright?

There are no standards anymore. There is no moral highground, only the lulz exist.
 
AOC coming out saying the Epstein stuff is being hidden by a rapist is hilarious considering it was originally hidden by a rapist.

Maybe I'm not following, since the Epstein stuff goes back years to Flordia has well. Who's the original rapist you're talking about? Dershowitz?

The bungling of the Epstein case is a base-turning event. This was a strategic self-goal that Democrats are going to use against the Trump administration and that Republican voters are going to remember.

The craziest part to me is how this administration fails to get stories straight, especially with this one. Bondi and Patel both say a list never existed, but Trump Truth's out that there is a list, calling them:
Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration
While also saying:
Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it?

If the files were fake and only had Republicans on them, they'd have been released years ago. If the files are fake and you've got evidence of that, release those.

The only reason not to release the files is because you were engaged in sex acts with minors, or you're protecting people who engaged in sex acts.
 
The *only* reason, bro? lol

Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
 
Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
I heard something on the radio this morning about Maxwell looking for a deal if she gives names. Maybe there's active cases finally open?
 
There's always the possibility that the information doesn't exist.

I don't think that's the case, though, and I think most Americans don't either.

That goes back to the conflicting stories from the Admin though; AG/FBI say it never existed, President says it does but it was "fake".

It'd be an extremely hard pill to swallow that there exists 0 information when OSINT existed to track island visitors back to their homes.


I heard something on the radio this morning about Maxwell looking for a deal if she gives names. Maybe there's active cases finally open?
I forget where I read it, but Trump "Allegedly" debated giving her a pardon before he left office.

At this point, giving names without any concrete information does nothing. We know who common travelers are, we know who visited after he was convicted of sex crimes, etc.
 
Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
Well, I guess you could start with, "this whole thing was a conspiracy theory that people built from a bunch of correlated data that seems nefarious but it isn't", right? Or anything in between that and calling the sitting president a pedophile with absolutely no evidence to support that? You also don't know if he's protecting anyone, what he knows, what his intent is, etc etc etc. It's just a wild (but pretty standard, honestly) claim to make cause you don't like a guy. I guess you could present your evidence that Donald Trump is a pedo?

FTR, there is definitely a list, Epstein didn't kill himself, there is a massive coverup, and everyone in Hollywood and DC is implicated. That's my own personal opinion.
 
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