It's not coming out, the list doesn't exist in it's original form, they hate us all. That's the take. Moving on.
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Many years ago, West Point let me teach American Politics for a semester. One of the things I remember from that course is Duverger's Law, and why it helps explain the persistence of America's two-party system.
The topic came up again recently in the context of Elon Musk's purported attempts to start a third party. I had ChatGPT write an article about why it pro0bably won't work.
Duverger’s Law: Why Elon Musk's "Third Party" Is Doomed to Fail • The Havok Journal
The topic came up again recently in the context of Elon Musk's purported attempts to start a third party. I had ChatGPT write an article about why it pro0bably won't work.
Duverger’s Law: Why Elon Musk's "Third Party" Is Doomed to Fail • The Havok Journal
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Someone tell me how the Shawn Ryan with Newsom goes. Conservative shows giving that guy a platform to rehab his image is a bad idea.
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So now we care about migrants in Yurop?
ETA2: Alright this shit, not what I voted for.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/10/trump-amnesty-illegal-immigration-workers
ETA3: Future persons.
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Uh, I'm good with Podcast host Bongino resigning. Laura Loomer has been nothing but a divisive idiot that has truly been used by the left. She's not "loyal" to MAGA or Trump. Don't even know if she's a conservative. Does she want to be Elon's next girlfriend/Babymama?
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So now we care about migrants in Yurop?
ETA2: Alright this shit, not what I voted for.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/10/trump-amnesty-illegal-immigration-workers
ETA3: Future persons.
ETA 4:
Uh, I'm good with Podcast host Bongino resigning. Laura Loomer has been nothing but a divisive idiot that has truly been used by the left. She's not "loyal" to MAGA or Trump. Don't even know if she's a conservative. Does she want to be Elon's next girlfriend/Babymama?
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MOO, the key source of the problem isn't political options, it's Americans sitting on their hands. YMMV.
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Or... you could frame it as the second highest voter turnout in our history with a good trend up. Which is more like Americans are sitting less on their hands.. definitely YMMV
The podcast host appears to be the only person in the government with principles. Maybe we actually need one of those around?
Either way- don't care. The funniest possible scenario is Gaetz going to DC to take Bondi's spot, which would just be pure comedy.
1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
The bungling of the Epstein case is a base-turning event. This was a strategic self-goal that Democrats are going to use against the Trump administration and that Republican voters are going to remember.
Maybe I'm not following, since the Epstein stuff goes back years to Flordia has well. Who's the original rapist you're talking about? Dershowitz?
The craziest part to me is how this administration fails to get stories straight, especially with this one. Bondi and Patel both say a list never existed, but Trump Truth's out that there is a list, calling them:
While also saying:
If the files were fake and only had Republicans on them, they'd have been released years ago. If the files are fake and you've got evidence of that, release those.
The only reason not to release the files is because you were engaged in sex acts with minors, or you're protecting people who engaged in sex acts.
The *only* reason, bro? lol
Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.
I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.
What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?
I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
There's always the possibility that the information doesn't exist.
I don't think that's the case, though, and I think most Americans don't either.
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I honestly don't know where this goes, but things like this need to end. If you are not fit to stand trial, you may not go to prison, but you have to be taken off the street and institutionalized so that you are no longer a threat to the society.
I heard something on the radio this morning about Maxwell looking for a deal if she gives names. Maybe there's active cases finally open?
That goes back to the conflicting stories from the Admin though; AG/FBI say it never existed, President says it does but it was "fake".
It'd be an extremely hard pill to swallow that there exists 0 information when OSINT existed to track island visitors back to their homes.
I forget where I read it, but Trump "Allegedly" debated giving her a pardon before he left office.
At this point, giving names without any concrete information does nothing. We know who common travelers are, we know who visited after he was convicted of sex crimes, etc.
Well, I guess you could start with, "this whole thing was a conspiracy theory that people built from a bunch of correlated data that seems nefarious but it isn't", right? Or anything in between that and calling the sitting president a pedophile with absolutely no evidence to support that? You also don't know if he's protecting anyone, what he knows, what his intent is, etc etc etc. It's just a wild (but pretty standard, honestly) claim to make cause you don't like a guy. I guess you could present your evidence that Donald Trump is a pedo?
FTR, there is definitely a list, Epstein didn't kill himself, there is a massive coverup, and everyone in Hollywood and DC is implicated. That's my own personal opinion.
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She had her day in court. If she was really going to share something, she'd have done it by now.
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