The Trump Presidency 2.0

Uh, I'm good with Podcast host Bongino resigning. Laura Loomer has been nothing but a divisive idiot that has truly been used by the left. She's not "loyal" to MAGA or Trump. Don't even know if she's a conservative. Does she want to be Elon's next girlfriend/Babymama?
The podcast host appears to be the only person in the government with principles. Maybe we actually need one of those around?

Either way- don't care. The funniest possible scenario is Gaetz going to DC to take Bondi's spot, which would just be pure comedy.
 
The podcast host appears to be the only person in the government with principles. Maybe we actually need one of those around?

Either way- don't care. The funniest possible scenario is Gaetz going to DC to take Bondi's spot, which would just be pure comedy.

1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
 
AOC coming out saying the Epstein stuff is being hidden by a rapist is hilarious considering it was originally hidden by a rapist.
 
1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
Yeah man, first a Supreme Court Justice with ties to gang rape and now Gaetz, amiright?

There are no standards anymore. There is no moral highground, only the lulz exist.
 
AOC coming out saying the Epstein stuff is being hidden by a rapist is hilarious considering it was originally hidden by a rapist.

Maybe I'm not following, since the Epstein stuff goes back years to Flordia has well. Who's the original rapist you're talking about? Dershowitz?

The bungling of the Epstein case is a base-turning event. This was a strategic self-goal that Democrats are going to use against the Trump administration and that Republican voters are going to remember.

The craziest part to me is how this administration fails to get stories straight, especially with this one. Bondi and Patel both say a list never existed, but Trump Truth's out that there is a list, calling them:
Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration
While also saying:
Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it?

If the files were fake and only had Republicans on them, they'd have been released years ago. If the files are fake and you've got evidence of that, release those.

The only reason not to release the files is because you were engaged in sex acts with minors, or you're protecting people who engaged in sex acts.
 
The *only* reason, bro? lol

Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
 
Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
I heard something on the radio this morning about Maxwell looking for a deal if she gives names. Maybe there's active cases finally open?
 
There's always the possibility that the information doesn't exist.

I don't think that's the case, though, and I think most Americans don't either.

That goes back to the conflicting stories from the Admin though; AG/FBI say it never existed, President says it does but it was "fake".

It'd be an extremely hard pill to swallow that there exists 0 information when OSINT existed to track island visitors back to their homes.


I heard something on the radio this morning about Maxwell looking for a deal if she gives names. Maybe there's active cases finally open?
I forget where I read it, but Trump "Allegedly" debated giving her a pardon before he left office.

At this point, giving names without any concrete information does nothing. We know who common travelers are, we know who visited after he was convicted of sex crimes, etc.
 
Complict or protecting those who were? Absolutely.

I dont for a second believe that the Epstein Files are a Democrat plot to hurt Donald Trump that they somehow forgot to release before the 2025 election.

What other reasons do you think exist for why the President is so vehemently trying to convince people that Epstein is a nothing-burger?

I'm open to other reasons, I just dont see them.
Well, I guess you could start with, "this whole thing was a conspiracy theory that people built from a bunch of correlated data that seems nefarious but it isn't", right? Or anything in between that and calling the sitting president a pedophile with absolutely no evidence to support that? You also don't know if he's protecting anyone, what he knows, what his intent is, etc etc etc. It's just a wild (but pretty standard, honestly) claim to make cause you don't like a guy. I guess you could present your evidence that Donald Trump is a pedo?

FTR, there is definitely a list, Epstein didn't kill himself, there is a massive coverup, and everyone in Hollywood and DC is implicated. That's my own personal opinion.
 
1. Insanity!!!! How dare you wish a competent person with morals and ethics would work in the USG. Heretic!!!! Shame!!!!
2. A guy with reported ties to underage sex workers in charge of the Epstein investigation? Um, those are some spicy optics. There's no way people wouldn't trust his investigation...
Do we think Bongino has ethics? Like I stopped thinking people in government had any of that a long time ago. My wife has to deal with elected officials every day...so tay that.

My world is not idealistic at all.
 
FTR, there is definitely a list, Epstein didn't kill himself, there is a massive coverup, and everyone in Hollywood and DC is implicated. That's my own personal opinion.
I want to hit this first; I agree with you on these takes.
Well, I guess you could start with, "this whole thing was a conspiracy theory that people built from a bunch of correlated data that seems nefarious but it isn't", right? Or anything in between that and calling the sitting president a pedophile with absolutely no evidence to support that?
It could be a conspiracy theory that actually is completely innocent, but we've already established, neither of us believe that.

I gave two reasons for withholding information; either engaging in acts, or protecting those who engaged.

I suppose there can be a third, which is "I was never involved in the child-stuff, but I am in the documents as an associate and those I'll take a major hit to my character/personal life."

Granted, I would think someone is a selfish coward if they chose to protect their reputation instead of naming powerful abusers, but maybe thats just me.

You also don't know if he's protecting anyone, what he knows, what his intent is, etc etc etc. It's just a wild (but pretty standard, honestly) claim to make cause you don't like a guy. I guess you could present your evidence that Donald Trump is a pedo?

Yea, the guy saying "who cares about this guy?" and claiming it's all fake documents to get him in trouble totally is acting like a reasonable person.

Me not liking Trump has nothing to do with it, as I'd be making the same points should it have been someone else in the seat. We've all assumed since Biden was in office that the documents/names weren't being released because it would implicate many powerful people.
He gets extra vitriol for having a whole administration of personnel that made comments about that, swore up and down they'd do something, and then suddenly try to jedi mind-trick the population once they're in power.

If a bunch of the political/social elites were engaged in this shit, burn it all down. Anyone who tries to protect them to "maintain the status quo" is a complict coward.

EVEN IF there's truly nothing there, this whole weird song and dance means most people will never believe that.

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Seperate bit, same topic; I really look forward to seeing if Ro Khanna forces a vote and who votes against it/why.
 
We all have a certain level of ethics and morals. Human behavior and beliefs exist on a sliding scale. We also have varying levels of self-preservation or the preservation of our loved ones. Dan Bongino has a wife and two daughters. Dan the dad and Dan the bachelor aren't the same man and I don't hate him for it, especially given what we all believe to be in those files.

Dan. Won't. Talk. He will go back to work, avoid the press, and maybe the spotlight for awhile. In due time he'll resign and go back to his podcast, repeating whatever cover story, spin, you name it he's been told to say. The best we can hope for is a "dead man's hand" release of documents should he die of 2 self-inflicted GSWs to the back of the head.

I hope I'm wrong about all of the above, btw.
 
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