The Trump Presidency 2.0

[TLDR20]

Told ya'll so.

The people here who have talked about leaving aren't because we've seen the effects of CR funding. There are also questions about the gov't keeping its word on the payouts. Adding to that distrust is the repeated mantra of "national security" being exempt, but then we see cases where the CIA is offered a buyout....so we're exempt or we aren't? People don't trust the offer, period.

The point is to burn it down. This is what MAGA wanted. Burn the swamp. Lots of people saw this coming.

 

[Marauder06]

Yep; it is a one-for-one decrement. "Maybe" not in your shop - but 'somewhere'
It could be an empty spot downstairs in the G1 that gets pulled off the books - it could be the assistant to the regional manager- but for every person that takes deferred retirement, a slot has to be dumped

Just the view from my foxhole - but everything in government is about the Benjamin's - this is all about cutting the budget - with the next debt ceiling coming in March and everyone still working from a CR instead of a budget - some of these "leveraged buyouts" can be used to make people squeal.
...don't want to support the budget?
...shut 'er down
...wait, these folks that took the buyout aren't getting paid?
...pass my budget

I'm sure that the "act now or loose out" timeline on making people decide by the 6th is intentional

I'll admit, it's very tempting. If I left this job on the 6th I'd have another job that paid similarly--or more--in about a week in the private sector. And even if I didn't get immediately hired, I'd have that sweet sweet .gov paycheck to hold me over until I got sorted. I could do all things I've wanted to do for years... write books, get back in shape, find a way to become both funny AND witty... everything.

But again, I have a lot of personal loyalty to my current organization and my boss. My current unit had to lobby very hard to get me curtailed from an OCONUS assignment when I was on active duty and stuck in a shitty job with a boss who was such a toxic leader that I was actively trying to get on another deployment (on top of the 7 that I already had) just to get away from her. Then, once they pulled off a coup and somehow got me orders, they had to go short in the shop for months until the school year ended and I could PCS back to the states. They expended a LOT of political capital to make that happen, and I will always be grateful.

In addition, my current boss has done a lot for both my family and for me personally. On top of that, I like my team and this job and think we do important work that I find fulfilling. And, at the end of the day, I don't really need the money. So given all of that, I think I'm good here. There's no way I could Blue Falcon this team after everything they did for me, especially if it's just for the money.

 

[Marauder06]

Told ya'll so.

The people here who have talked about leaving aren't because we've seen the effects of CR funding. There are also questions about the gov't keeping its word on the payouts. Adding to that distrust is the repeated mantra of "national security" being exempt, but then we see cases where the CIA is offered a buyout....so we're exempt or we aren't? People don't trust the offer, period.

There's a trust issue, but more importantly there's a communication issue. At the meeting I was in yesterday, no one worried about getting paid down the road. But there were a lot of "I don't know" and "we've asked for clarification."

 

[Dame]

I wonder how much cocaine and heroin the CIA will have to traffic to make up for the loss of USAID? With the border closing cartels need a way into the country.

Oh, those numbers are on Hunter's laptop.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I generally consider the UN to be "tits on a boar" useful, but this is a great opportunity to join their money and people with their mouths. I'd be happy if they showed up to secure MSR's, food distro, logistics, engineering to rebuild, man checkpoints, etc.

But they are a useless bunch of twats, so that will never happen.

No. The UN is a terrible idea. We want to rebuild the place, not turn it into an open air pedo brothel.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Just out of curiosity. If one is fired from a Federal job, do they get to keep their security clearance? What about just being let go?

 

[Marauder06]

Just out of curiosity. If one is fired from a Federal job, do they get to keep their security clearance? What about just being let go?

I'm not sure how it works in every case, but those are usually two separate admin actions. When I retired, for example, my clearance remained active but would have expired if I hadn't taken another job that required it. When you leave a job you lose access and get read off of any special programs, but I don't think it automatically costs you your clearance.

 

[AWP]

I'm not sure how it works in every case, but those are usually two separate admin actions. When I retired, for example, my clearance remained active but would have expired if I hadn't taken another job that required it. When you leave a job you lose access and get read off of any special programs, but I don't think it automatically costs you your clearance.

As explained to me by my last contracting security officer, if you can "transfer" the entity responsible for your clearance from one company to another, it doesn't really expire. So, if you go from Company A to Company B, it stays active. 1:59 PM it goes off the books, 12:00 AM it goes to the new company. If there's a break, then it kind of goes into "limbo" as she called it. It is tied into "re-investigating" you for the clearance and some financial stuff for the gaining company.

When I left Lockheed in '06 and returned to them in '08, I had to do the full SF-86 stuff. I later saw that my renewal date was tied into my FIRST trip there in 2004. I'm not exactly sure about the "limbo" as she called it, but I liken it to putting a computer into sleep mode. You lose the clearance and access, but it is paused until you need it again.

That's probably a poor explanation.