The Trump Presidency 2.0

AWP said:
That kid won't be so smug once the last of his USAID porridge runs out.
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He'll be fine. USAID embezzled most of it. Govt contractors OTOH...

Stressed Spongebob Squarepants GIF
:ROFLMAO:
 
GOTWA said:
Yall are noobs at the security clearance stuff. When you leave your job, your access is revoked, but you maintain ELIGIBILITY to be granted access again in the future.
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So what would be better clearance wise? Gracefully take a bow by taking the downsizing deal or being unwillingly terminated/downsized/fired?
 
R.Caerbannog said:
So what would be better clearance wise? Gracefully take a bow by taking the downsizing deal or being unwillingly terminated/downsized/fired?
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Depends where you're at in your investigation cycle. If your five year is coming up, you'll want to be with someone that will initiate it. Since we're in CE, the turnaround is about two weeks from the time your EQIP is submitted. Companies are hurting for people so there's a chance they'll bring you on even if you are out of scope or lack a clearance. Just depends if that particular skillset is easy to fill or not.
 
'Global Affairs Canada' smashing the hard drives from their computers hidden in apartment bathroom closet in Denver...
...sorry that was Bill Clinton's wife that did that

'Global Affairs Canada' dumping evidence is not 'sus' - not from my foxhole.
...it isn't even surprising
It's business as usual.
It's not shocking.
It's not unexpected.
It's funny.
It's all but scripted.
 
Fed resignations delayed until (at least) Feb 10th.

The union is suing for two reasons we've repeatedly brought up; lack of funding last March 14th and lack of an analysis of where cuts are authorized. (DOD, as of Today's deadline, still hasn't identified all exemptions for an example).

They're suing to delay the program until April, if it is found to be legal.

I stopped reading the emails, but apparently part of the deal is Giving up rights to litigation and allowing the agency head to rescind the deal.

sample deferred resignation agreement sent to federal workers Monday evening raises more concerns about the offer’s validity. In addition to outlining the timetable—resigning employees would continue to work until Feb. 28, after which they would be placed on paid administrative leave—the document requires employees to waive their right to pursue litigation—administrative or judicial—against the agency and waives that right on behalf of unions who may represent them.

The sample agreement also has an apparent loophole: an agency head may rescind the deal at any time.

“By signing this agreement, the parties acknowledge that they have entered the agreement knowingly, voluntarily and free from improper influence, coercion or duress,” it states. “Employee understands that this agreement cannot be rescinded, except in the sole discretion of the [agency head], which shall not be subject to review at the Merit Systems Protection Board or otherwise.”
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Cookie_ said:
Fed resignations delayed until (at least) Feb 10th.

The union is suing for two reasons we've repeatedly brought up; lack of funding last March 14th and lack of an analysis of where cuts are authorized. (DOD, as of Today's deadline, still hasn't identified all exemptions for an example).

They're suing to delay the program until April, if it is found to be legal.

I stopped reading the emails, but apparently part of the deal is Giving up rights to litigation and allowing the agency head to rescind the deal.
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Yup. We received word about 2 hours ago our mandatory RTO was pushed from Friday the 7th to Monday the 10th. I suspect that date will continue to slip to the right in fits and spurts.
 
AWP said:
Yup. We received word about 2 hours ago our mandatory RTO was pushed from Friday the 7th to Monday the 10th. I suspect that date will continue to slip to the right in fits and spurts.
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I'll take one extra day of unfucked parking.
 
GOTWA said:
Yall are noobs at the security clearance stuff. When you leave your job, your access is revoked, but you maintain ELIGIBILITY to be granted access again in the future.
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I had the same typed in a draft for proofread and post. Access and eligibility are two different things, and access is terminated as soon as you leave a position (even if moving right next door). Your next job can grant access to you again, but that's up to them and their mission-based need for you to have access.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
So what would be better clearance wise? Gracefully take a bow by taking the downsizing deal or being unwillingly terminated/downsized/fired?
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If I'm picking up what you're putting down, and with all other things being equal, no cleared employees facing the "leave now with a possible payout or get terminated (due to downsizing) later" scenario would necessarily be in a worse position clearance-wise for choosing either. The exception to that would be if an employee who chose to stay was ultimately fired due to not complying with their agency's updated RTO policies.
 
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GOTWA said:
Depends where you're at in your investigation cycle. If your five year is coming up, you'll want to be with someone that will initiate it. Since we're in CE, the turnaround is about two weeks from the time your EQIP is submitted. Companies are hurting for people so there's a chance they'll bring you on even if you are out of scope or lack a clearance. Just depends if that particular skillset is easy to fill or not.
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Thank you. That helps explain things. So if your skillset isn't that needed it would be better to jump ship with a private company that will keep your clearance active. Otherwise if you get fired you pretty much lose everything?

@Totentanz Thank you for the clarification as well.

Not related just thought it was funny:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1887701988135014523
 
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I wonder if these guys are upset they didn't take the deal. Now, over 9000 are about to have their jobs cut. It's almost poetic.

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Locksteady said:
If I'm picking up what you're putting down, and with all other things being equal, no cleared employees facing the "leave now with a possible payout or get terminated (due to downsizing) later" scenario would necessarily be in a worse position clearance-wise for choosing either. The exception to that would be if an employee who chose to stay was ultimately fired due to not complying with their agency's updated RTO policies.
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Just saw this. So essentially if they're fired they do lose the clearance, but those who choose to leave or stay are in the same boat. Huh.
 
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R.Caerbannog said:
Just saw this. So essentially if they're fired they do lose the clearance, but those who choose to leave or stay are in the same boat. Huh.
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No.

So if you have a successful investigation for a job that gives you clearance eligibility for like 3 years, if you left that job after 1 year, you might have like only 6 months of eligibility status left before your investigation results expire vs. having the 2 remaining years if you'd kept the job.

If you get rehired in that 6 month timespan, you'd have 1 1/2 years left since the clocks keeps ticking during those 6 months too.

If you didn't take a clearance job in that shorter span of time, then it'd expire and they'd have to start a whole new investigation if you applied to a job with the same clearance eligibility requirement.
 
I've been mulling this over for a while and I'm not quite sure I'm there yet with the analogy, but here goes.

What's happening right now with the Trump administration reminds me a lot of the approach JSOC took against AQ in Iraq. Ultimately, we hit them so hard in so many different places for so long, that it affected their ability to do... pretty much anything.* Also, we really concentrated on going after the dark money. It's really, really hard to do nefarious things without the dollars to backstop everything. Even true believers want to get paid every once in a while.

That seems to be the approach right now. There is so much happening all over the place, including in a lot of unexpected ways (Gaza? WTF) that it's hard to react. And with DOGE going after the money, and with the corporations like Meta that were basically paying protection money to the Left now free to not do that (or afraid to keep doing it), we're seeing a LOT of change VERY quickly.








*...and then we told the Iraqis "Hey, you've got this! We're out." and then ISIS.
 

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