The Trump Presidency 2.0

amlove21 said:
We see eye to eye on it- release everything. All of it, no matter who it burns. We agree that showing up on a flight log 25 years ago isn't the same as taking international trips 25 times and having your picture on the pedo sex island.

Where we disagree is the end state, which you highlighted in your answer- it won't be enough. Release it, don't release it, he's on it, he's not on it- it's the "turning your pockets out" meme IRL.

Orange man bad, and no amount of releasing the truth will change that, IMO. Nothing he does will ever be enough, because it's him. Then we just move the goalposts for "what he has an obligation to do" and whinge about that. It's tiresome.
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It's very curious to me how it hasn't been leaked (maybe it has and I just didn't notice?). EVERYTHING else gets leaked.

If Trump is on it, he's on it. But if he was on it, I think it would have been made very public sometime around... I don't know last October.
 
Marauder06 said:
It's very curious to me how it hasn't been leaked (maybe it has and I just didn't notice?). EVERYTHING else gets leaked.

If Trump is on it, he's on it. But if he was on it, I think it would have been made very public sometime around... I don't know last October.
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I agree, except how do you manage to leak that bit of info without nuking some of your own peeps in the process? I think the Epstein evidence is a like a Cold War "dead man's hand" release system or a MAD-type scenario. If it goes public, it fundamentally changes history. I don't think Trump was in on it, but I think he's blocking it because a LOT of his bro-bros are...which still makes him an accomplice or accessary after the fact.

If you're innocent, but covering up to protect someone else, then you're still guilty, just not a pedophile or sex trafficker in this case. Those are simple facts, regardless of who is involved.

It won't matter, though. If the USAID thing plays out, that's what will get him whacked and his surviving USSS detail some amazing book deals.
 
AWP said:
I agree, except how do you manage to leak that bit of info without nuking some of your own peeps in the process? I think the Epstein evidence is a like a Cold War "dead man's hand" release system or a MAD-type scenario. If it goes public, it fundamentally changes history. I don't think Trump was in on it, but I think he's blocking it because a LOT of his bro-bros are...which still makes him an accomplice or accessary after the fact.

If you're innocent, but covering up to protect someone else, then you're still guilty, just not a pedophile or sex trafficker in this case. Those are simple facts, regardless of who is involved.

It won't matter, though. If the USAID thing plays out, that's what will get him whacked and his surviving USSS detail some amazing book deals.
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Do you think he's actively blocking it? Or is it possible on his list of thousands of things he's doing (220+ and counting) that he's waiting for the noms? If his admin (Bondi specifically) said on her first day in the office that it was a priority to release it, she would have the power to do so. And so did his FBI nom (Kash)- he will also have the power to do so, especially in coordination with DOJ. That leads me to believe he's doing the opposite of blocking it, he's nominated and placed people with the constitution to do it. Just my rose colored glasses, I'll admit.

I totally agree in self-preservation and blocking something that could hurt you politically, but that's not what the actions of the admin lead me to believe.
 
Marauder06 said:
It's very curious to me how it hasn't been leaked (maybe it has and I just didn't notice?). EVERYTHING else gets leaked.

If Trump is on it, he's on it. But if he was on it, I think it would have been made very public sometime around... I don't know last October.
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This. If they had it, and even if it took some of their own down- recent history leads me to believe they'd have done it to take Trump down. I am only basing this off of EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE IN THE LAST 16 YEARS OF NEARLY UNINTERRUPTED GOVERNMENTAL POWER AND INFLUENCE.
 
AWP said:
I agree, except how do you manage to leak that bit of info without nuking some of your own peeps in the process? I think the Epstein evidence is a like a Cold War "dead man's hand" release system or a MAD-type scenario. If it goes public, it fundamentally changes history. I don't think Trump was in on it, but I think he's blocking it because a LOT of his bro-bros are...which still makes him an accomplice or accessary after the fact.

If you're innocent, but covering up to protect someone else, then you're still guilty, just not a pedophile or sex trafficker in this case. Those are simple facts, regardless of who is involved.

It won't matter, though. If the USAID thing plays out, that's what will get him whacked and his surviving USSS detail some amazing book deals.
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Book deals imply they would be in on it. Cause that's how book deals work. DC funnels stolen money into a publishing company, who then passes it off to their intended recipients.

The Bidens Made Nearly Twice As Much In 2017 Than Previous 19 Years Combined
Barack and Michelle Obama Clinch Book Deal

Given the corruption that's now common knowledge. Anything happening to T$, would make it open season on anyone connected to the Deep State or suspected of having ties with it. The nation goes from severance pay and firings, to extra judicial investigations and hangings. Which is a best case scenario, where we maintain the veneer of being a civilized nation.
 
amlove21 said:
Do you think he's actively blocking it? Or is it possible on his list of thousands of things he's doing (220+ and counting) that he's waiting for the noms? If his admin (Bondi specifically) said on her first day in the office that it was a priority to release it, she would have the power to do so.
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My understanding from a podcast I listened to is she moved to subpoena it, but Dick Durbin is blocking it.
 
amlove21 said:
Do you think he's actively blocking it? Or is it possible on his list of thousands of things he's doing (220+ and counting) that he's waiting for the noms? If his admin (Bondi specifically) said on her first day in the office that it was a priority to release it, she would have the power to do so. And so did his FBI nom (Kash)- he will also have the power to do so, especially in coordination with DOJ. That leads me to believe he's doing the opposite of blocking it, he's nominated and placed people with the constitution to do it. Just my rose colored glasses, I'll admit.

I totally agree in self-preservation and blocking something that could hurt you politically, but that's not what the actions of the admin lead me to believe.
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I can get behind this possibility.

R.Caerbannog said:
Book deals imply they would be in on it. Cause that's how book deals work. DC funnels stolen money into a publishing company, who then passes it off to their intended recipients.
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BOOK DEALS IMPLY THEY CAN READ! They read books because books are books and that's how books work. Books funnel letters into paragraphs onto paper which is passed on to the Illuminati so you can type shit like this. Bravo.
 
amlove21 said:
If they had it, and even if it took some of their own down- recent history leads me to believe they'd have done it to take Trump down.
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I say again... I do not believe Trump is a pedo but I do believe he knows people on that list. I can not yet get fully on board with this. Durbin's democrats are trying to stop it from being released and it just may be because it's going to damn many of their own. I have to wonder if they'd be willing to bring down Bill Clinton ,etc, in order to get Trump. Just maybe this one is off limits. I hope you're right on this one.
 
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Found this article about a USDA inspector general having to be escorted out of her office. Cause she refused to leave.
Exclusive-USDA inspector general escorted out of her office after defying White House

Then a Snopes "article" right underneath it.
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AWP said:
I can get behind this possibility.



BOOK DEALS IMPLY THEY CAN READ! They read books because books are books and that's how books work. Books funnel letters into paragraphs onto paper which is passed on to the Illuminati so you can type shit like this. Bravo.
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Ralph Wiggum: I'm helping!

season 9 running in circles GIF
 
Topkick said:
Former president's are authorized to receive Intel briefs after leaving office. Even Trump received them despite being ostracized by the swamp. If you don't have a security clearance, I'm assuming you don't get the briefings.
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Not no more they don’t! #yourefired #itsJOEver

Remember when the democrats too 16 years to divest outsize authority to the executive branch, only to have that gun turned against them by their biggest enemy? Remember how they wailed against all the reckoning coming to them thanks to the accusation by projection for the last 4 years?
 
Topkick said:
Former president's are authorized to receive Intel briefs after leaving office. Even Trump received them despite being ostracized by the swamp. If you don't have a security clearance, I'm assuming you don't get the briefings.
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There is absolutely no purpose of briefing a vegetable. They may have been authorized for that, but to what end? Trump isn't going to use Jill as a special envoy.
 
Marauder06 said:
It's very curious to me how it hasn't been leaked (maybe it has and I just didn't notice?). EVERYTHING else gets leaked.

If Trump is on it, he's on it. But if he was on it, I think it would have been made very public sometime around... I don't know last October.
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Yes. It would’ve been the silver bullet, the Left’s salvation. After everything else failed, even if a few of their colleagues had to fall on their swords.

Pull the chain, nape the AO, eat your own.
 
Here's the thing, though. Trump can't get elected president again. No matter what he does, or doesn't do, the Left is going to try to slander, imprison, and kill him. Even if he's on the list, it really doesn't matter at this point.

The Epstein list is such a big thing that it almost seems like it must have some big names from both the left AND the right. Otherwise someone on the right would have gotten a hold of it and released it by now.

...or it's a big nothingburger that the powers that be keep holding up just out of sight to keep the mob titillated.

But, given everything, I think there are big-name leftists on the list and that's why we haven't seen it yet.
 

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