The Trump Presidency 2.0

And that's my take: pro-Elon or anti-Elon, violence cuts both ways. Do I expect more violence from the Left than the Right? Absolutely. Does that exclude the Right from doing the same? Nope, but I think the numbers will favor one side over the other...
Activists don't protest in the cold because the left is soft. Wait till it warms up across the nation- this has been the most active winter we have seen in our lifetime with these attacks.

Stay frosty.
 
Yeah I agree here, unfortunately the game is what the game is. The EO/challenge/court fight tactic is the fastest way to do it. Congress (and I mean every single politician, both sides) is abhorrent on actually doing what they're supposed to do, meaning, create legislation. Power has been consolidated in the Executive for way too long- and here we are.

To your bolded, I guess we would need an example of that happening. I always say "these things only go one way", so until we have as many examples of conservative judges doing that, I guess we only have to worry about the 235 progressive judges installed by the democrats in the last 4 years that were place there specifically to resist the conservative (and lawful) actions of the President.

Those aren't my words; they are Chuck Schumer's.

Judge shopping is a thing both sides do, so I don't think it's unique to the Dems. Finishing my break so don't quite have time to dig up examples, but I remember conservative judges blocking a decent chunk Biden EOs over the years. Might just be so many EOs that it is seemingly more common?

Either way, it goes back to a broader issue overall of using judges to "resist" being a problem in general.

Activists don't protest in the cold because the left is soft.

This is what I was getting at the other day!
Conservatives will double or triple layer gloves, but libs will give up once their nose gets a bit runny.
 
The Department of Ed is a little wonky; it can't be dissolved without Congress (Congress formalized Department of Ed)- but Trump can 100% take away all discretionary funding and gut the agency's impact without Congressional approval, which looks to be what he is doing.

Only an act of congress can officially get rid of it but Trump can effectively do the same thing via 'death by a thousand cuts'....funding cuts here, staffing cuts there, moving certain programs to other departments.

If the front door is locked, go through the back.
 
Only an act of congress can officially get rid of it but Trump can effectively do the same thing via 'death by a thousand cuts'....funding cuts here, staffing cuts there, moving certain programs to other departments.

If the front door is locked, go through the back.
And that is exactly what he's doing- moving school lunch under HHS, cutting the rot of funding administrators and their lavish paychecks as opposed to students, etc.

It's not all 7d chess all the time, but in this case, it's a well thought out plan of attack.
 
This is what I was getting at the other day!
Conservatives will double or triple layer gloves, but libs will give up once their nose gets a bit runny.
I was in grad school at Yale during the latter years of the Occupy protests. Some undergrads set up some tents in the Occupy space on the New Haven Green, which abuts part of campus. I was walking to class one day and I noticed the tents and the signs and they Yale protesters. I thought the entire protest was stupid, but I remarked to a colleague that I respected them for being out there in the snow and ice and cold (Connecticut in the winter) overnight. As an Army veteran approaching his 40s who spent plenty of time outdoors in the cold (thanks Korea and Afghanistan!), I wouldn't do it, even if I believed in the Occupy cause... which I didn't... because it was stupid.

Related story: Yalies stole from Occupy New Haven, Occupiers say

Anyway, my colleague informed me that I was mistaken. "They're not living there, bro." I was stunned. It sure looked like they were living there. The signs and slogans indicated they were. "It's all an act." I came back through the same area at night a few days later and it looked like he was right. While there were some hard core protesters out there who were physically living in the park, most people weren't. They'd make a big show about setting up a tent and posting signs and shouting slogans when the cameras were pointed at them, but then they'd slink back to campus to hot chow and warm beds at night.

Like many such political actions, it was purely performative.
 
I combined the numbers from below, Obama and Biden had 80.77% of actions from judges appointed from rebublican leadership; Trump is at 88.75%. I know per capita is troublesome, but those are the numbers. That ignores the fact that Trump is getting challenged 515.38% more than Biden/Obama combined.

@Cookie_ I posted it before- Obama and Biden had a total of 21 combined legal challenges. Trump is at 142 (and climbing, daily, 83 just in the last 60 days).

ETA- those numbers are "opposite party installed judges legally challenging EOs".
 
I was in grad school at Yale during the latter years of the Occupy protests. Some undergrads set up some tents in the Occupy space on the New Haven Green, which abuts part of campus. I was walking to class one day and I noticed the tents and the signs and they Yale protesters. I thought the entire protest was stupid, but I remarked to a colleague that I respected them for being out there in the snow and ice and cold (Connecticut in the winter) overnight. As an Army veteran approaching his 40s who spent plenty of time outdoors in the cold (thanks Korea and Afghanistan!), I wouldn't do it, even if I believed in the Occupy cause... which I didn't... because it was stupid.

Related story: Yalies stole from Occupy New Haven, Occupiers say

Anyway, my colleague informed me that I was mistaken. "They're not living there, bro." I was stunned. It sure looked like they were living there. The signs and slogans indicated they were. "It's all an act." I came back through the same area at night a few days later and it looked like he was right. While there were some hard core protesters out there who were physically living in the park, most people weren't. They'd make a big show about setting up a tent and posting signs and shouting slogans when the cameras were pointed at them, but then they'd slink back to campus to hot chow and warm beds at night.

Like many such political actions, it was purely performative.

Pussies. Duke students will camp out for 6 weeks regardless of the weather just to get tickets to the UNC basketball game. And they still manage to go to class and be decent citizens.
 
Only an act of congress can officially get rid of it but Trump can effectively do the same thing via 'death by a thousand cuts'....funding cuts here, staffing cuts there, moving certain programs to other departments.

If the front door is locked, go through the back.
He actually can't do that either without a change to the budget. Power of the purse, Congress gave Department of Ed a budget. This is where this DOGE strategy is going off the effing rails.

Honestly fine with cutting back a bunch of headcounts in Department of Ed to do what it's supposed to do really. Enforce Title IX and run the student loan program and not provide grants for people to do their PhD in intersectional studies and the impact of transvestite microaggressions...
 
He actually can't do that either without a change to the budget. Power of the purse, Congress gave Department of Ed a budget. This is where this DOGE strategy is going off the effing rails.

Honestly fine with cutting back a bunch of headcounts in Department of Ed to do what it's supposed to do really. Enforce Title IX and run the student loan program and not provide grants for people to do their PhD in intersectional studies and the impact of transvestite microaggressions...
This is a great comment. It’s really a shame that America’s children can’t read it thanks to the department of education’s very real and decades old failure.

I’m just excited to get back to an agreement where the left and the right are having valuable conversations about what a president can and can’t do again- where were all these constitutional scholars during the student loan forgiveness, OSHA vaccine mandate, and flying illegal immigrants to the interior of the United States? Coulda used them then.

Defund department of education. Shutter it. Fund the student, not the system.
 
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This is a great comment. It’s really a shame that America’s children can’t read it thanks to the department of education’s very real and decades old failure.

I’m just excited to get back to an agreement where the left and the right are having valuable conversations about what a president can and can’t do again- where were all these constitutional scholars during the student loan forgiveness, OSHA vaccine mandate, and flying illegal immigrants to the interior of the United States? Coulda used them then.

Defund department of education. Shutter it. Fund the student, not the system.

I can't really tell the tone of this. The purpose of the Federal Department of Education is a governance office. They enforce the law. I suppose we can give what they do to the FBI and stuff.

The reason children can't read in Illinois is a Springfield problem. The reason children graduate without being able to do simple math in Florida is a Tallahassee problem.

Associations do the credentialling for schools. Then state Departments of Education are the ones who administer the laws but actually do things. Fuck up really bad, the state takes over your school, fuck up worse? Maybe they take over your district. And I can tell you most of the time that cycle is hard to break out of. So whose at the local level in Illinois for those 30 odd schools? The School board, probably Democrats who want to push things like Diversity, Equity, and inclusion.

There are plenty of other things to do, less welfare entitlements for people who drive escalades and buy beer with their EBT.
 
Whether the Feds or the State, whoever pushed for and allowed comprehensive testing as a benchmark for education needs to be shot. I think you could make the case those are the worst thing to happen to our children's education in the last 50 years.

Any slice of the Dept. of Ed remotely involved in that nonsense needs to be DOGE'ed. Eradicated.
 
Your whole comment only supports the point.

It’s a state problem? Well it’s actually all the states, but I agree. No need for a federal agency, let the states handle it. No need for a federal governance body that spends the vast majority of its money paying administrators.
 
Your whole comment only supports the point.

It’s a state problem? Well it’s actually all the states, but I agree. No need for a federal agency, let the states handle it. No need for a federal governance body that spends the vast majority of its money paying administrators.

I do not at all mind the federal oversight of federally-related/mandated programs and funding; however, there are other departments and agencies that can do that just as easily, much less expensively, and more efficiently. Axe the DoE.

I honestly cannot tell if the decrease (worsening?) of student outcomes was because of the created of the DoE or just a correlation, but I do think that part of the reason of the decrease/worsening of outcomes was because of the move of a lot of state-level oversight to the DoE and the increased federal extortion of the states to receive federal money.
 
Whether the Feds or the State, whoever pushed for and allowed comprehensive testing as a benchmark for education needs to be shot. I think you could make the case those are the worst thing to happen to our children's education in the last 50 years.

Any slice of the Dept. of Ed remotely involved in that nonsense needs to be DOGE'ed. Eradicated.

Standardized testing has been around for a while, but No Child Left Behind really turned it into what we see now.
 
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