The Trump Presidency 2.0

amlove21 said:
Big claims require big proof, and as always, we will just have to wait and see... but.

Imagine. Imagine if this comes to fruition.

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I know people will focus on Gaza, but expanding the AA is massive...and expansion for some nations is predicated upon resolving the Palestinian issue. You know who was really wanted to sign back in 2021? The Saudis.

Another fun fact people forget is who mediated those accords? Trump 1.0's administration.

IF, and I'm skeptical but want to see this play out however it ends, but IF they end Gaza and expand the AA? The Nobel vote should be a formality. I can hear the protests now, "From the river to the sea. Wait, are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!" Annnnnnnnnd scene.
 
I wonder how many American 'ex-pats' that hold views that are openly caustic to the country they are living in, are later elected to public office at the level of Mayor, Governor, Senator, or Congressional Representative???

Probably a lot.
Tons.

In fact, I'll bet there are Americans all over the world working to change foreign governments from within as part of a global effort to "make the world America".

For what its worth - even as I type this - I am pondering the possibility of becoming the Minister of Commerce in someplace like Iran or Cuba so that I can work to finally make Persian Rugs and Cuban cigars available to the American consumer - because FUCK Cuba and Iran...
...all I need to do is come up with a viable campaign strategy
 
Florida173 said:
Why would your daughter's sexuality have anything to do with a political leaning? Are you suggesting there are no gay republicans.
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To your first, you're either trolling me or woefully ignorant of statistics. On the second, of course there are gay Republicans. Did you know some Republicans are even Black? I too didn't know that was possible until yesterday.
 
AWP said:
To your first, you're either trolling me or woefully ignorant of statistics. On the second, of course there are gay Republicans. Did you know some Republicans are even Black? I too didn't know that was possible until yesterday.
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I understand both of these points. It's true that gay rights is a left leaning view. Social conservativism has really always been about not being open to change. I myself do not like a lot of the direction our country is going. I am a conservative, but do not GAF who you sleep with. That ship has sailed, regardless of party.
 
Florida173 said:
You're the one that brought up your daughter to qualify yourself as left leaning. Let's say I'm woefully ignorant of statistics. Which statistics are we talking about here?
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Assuming you're still trolling, but I'll entertain this one last time for some reason.

LGBT voters who are Democrat vs Republican. One group is larger than the other.
 
Topkick said:
I understand both of these points. It's true that gay rights is a left leaning view. Social conservativism has really always been about not being open to change. I myself do not like a lot of the direction our country is going. I am a conservative, but do not GAF who you sleep with. That ship has sailed, regardless of party.
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The idea that gay rights is inherently left-leaning hasn’t held true for over two decades. Support for gay rights, particularly same-sex marriage, has become broadly bipartisan. Gallup polls show over 70% of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, now support same-sex marriage, reflecting a mainstream consensus that transcends political divides. The issue lies with modern Pride events, which remain rooted in the activist rhetoric of the 1960s and 1970s. Pride often ties itself to left-leaning causes like social justice, anti-capitalism, and intersectionality, creating an automatic association with progressive politics. However, its increasing politicization and commercialization; while coupled with the aggressive inclusion of fringe or made up concepts like "Two-Spirit" identities... has misaligned it with the original goals of gay liberation, which focused on equal rights and societal acceptance. This disconnect fuels the perception that gay rights are still a left-wing issue, despite widespread bipartisan support.
 
Florida173 said:
The idea that gay rights is inherently left-leaning hasn’t held true for over two decades.
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I disagree. Current support from Republicans on same sex marriage is at about 40% in 2025 and steadily declining. Dems at over 80%. You could argue that same sex marriage isn't the full issue, but imo, you can't really say you believe in gay rights, but it's not okay to marry.

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Florida173 said:
Ok, tracking. This is your reason for leaning left. Because one side is bigger than the other
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What a weird conversation we are having- do per capita next to compare the groups on a metric that’s level.

Per capita, LGBTQ individuals identify as democrats and vote as such… that’s pretty solid.
 

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