This man does NOT like Jocko...

[Devildoc]

Me: I'm just fucking just jealous that I can't figure out how to monetize my bullshit !!!

But believe this - the day I figure out out to capitalize on my ability to talk shit on the interwebz.......

You're just a day late (well, 20 years) and a dollar short. The real pro's are those who saw the handwriting on the wall and use social media and other avenues to peddle their wares, be it rifle slings and gun components, or training, or whatever. Now there is such a glut of these guys with so few people to actually be clients now that GWOT is over.

But you are right in that social media adds an entirely new way to quickly out the liars and frauds in a way that never existed. How, exactly, do you counter the claims of a 90 year-old and what he did to slay the Hun? Or even the 75 year-old and Vietnam?

 

[Cookie_]

@Box the most unbelievable part of that story is

I had to turn it in to supply and get a new one so I could keep[ fighting !!!

No way you got supply to work quickly!

 

[Box]

@Box the most unbelievable part of that story is

I had to turn it in to supply and get a new one so I could keep fighting !!!

No way you got supply to work quickly!

You don't know...
...you weren't there

My buddy was though - and he would tell you - but he moved away.

 

[Gunz]

War Stories have been around forever. Technology and access to the information superhighway has just taken them to a whole' nutha' level...
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Now, all I need is a EweToob Channel, an InstantGain account, and a buddy to back up a few of my stories ...
...BAM "bona fide" Social Media Influencer !!!

Some people can do it with a straight face - some back-peddle when they are called out - Me: I'm just fucking just jealous that I can't figure out how to monetize my bullshit !!!


But believe this - the day I figure out out to capitalize on my ability to talk shit on the interwebz.......

And that's why everything I have written or shared on this website about my war I can back up with documents and photographs. In this day and age, it's good to be skeptical.

 

[AWP]

"Hey, A-dub, what did you do in Afghanistan?"
Fraud, waste, and abuse.
"Hahahaha! No, seriously."
I am serious and I have proof.
"What? What proof?"
W-2s and a 401(k).
"Uhhhh..."

 

[The Quartermaster]

@Box the most unbelievable part of that story is



No way you got supply to work quickly!

Depends on where and how.

There's no prescribed load lists anymore for anything class 9 at any unit level. However if there's an SSA in theater that actually has one or several on hand that's part of their storage PLL for class 9 warehouses (I never worked in a class 9, just a 2&4), it can be done but the request has to be either done the olden ways on a 2765 or through whatever system they were using at the time at the unit level, ULLS-G or SAMS-E. Unit supply has to order it by requesting it to the unit maintenance clerk at the motor pool or one from a consolidated shop office. But if the unit supply is on the signature card for class 9 then they can bypass unit maintenance altogether

As for barrels themselves they are considered expendable but durable and also sensitive item since it came off or goes to a weapon. The bad one gets coded out by being red tagged and a request for TI happens where a one for one swap occurs, meaning you turn in the bad for later destruction and you're proceeded for a replacement no questions asked so long as it's on your MTOE (but that's even more nerdier shit) so don't try to TI an M14 barrel and expecting a new one when your unit has zero, lol. AMSS is a thing and SPO or higher can get CID involved.

Supply really is a thankless job, not that anyone cares or wants to hear that we even exist unless somebody wants something.

 

[Cookie_]

Supply really is a thankless job, not that anyone cares or wants to hear that we even exist unless somebody wants something.

I (a cook) got thrown into being the "property management NCOIC" on my last deployment. About 40k pieces of CLII clothing and a couple thousand pieces of SSI as "theater training equipment". Myself and an E4 supply kid who'd never done his job had the pleasure of standing up the SOPs, maintenance, and supply discipline programs.

The teams and their students had the uncanny ability to fuck up at least a handful of qeapon systems/barrels every training iteration, so we got pretty good at the maintenance and replacement part. Trust me, I understand supply is a thankless job!

Just making the joke that nobody ever thinks things happen fast in the 4 shop (or 6, 1, etc)

 

[The Quartermaster]

I (a cook) got thrown into being the "property management NCOIC" on my last deployment. About 40k pieces of CLII clothing and a couple thousand pieces of SSI as "theater training equipment". Myself and an E4 supply kid who'd never done his job had the pleasure of standing up the SOPs, maintenance, and supply discipline programs.

The teams and their students had the uncanny ability to fuck up at least a handful of qeapon systems/barrels every training iteration, so we got pretty good at the maintenance and replacement part. Trust me, I understand supply is a thankless job!

Just making the joke that nobody ever thinks things happen fast in the 4 shop (or 6, 1, etc)

Ah, you're a 92G. My wife was a 92G as well. I was a 92A.

The only time I was doing anything specific with SF, was when I overheard a supply problem from two bearded dudes that were obviously out of Camp Vance off of Disney in Bagram. This was at the DFAC and PX near Tower 11. So I introduced myself and explained to them that they should RON/DON their problem and when it comes up in stock control I will tell my Chief and warehouse NCOIC way ahead of time. They asked to speak with our Chief and afterwards, that was that.

 

[Devildoc]

Supply really is a thankless job, not that anyone cares or wants to hear that we even exist unless somebody wants something.

My last job as a corpsman before I got my commission was with a fssg unit (Marine supply/log). After having been attached to infantry and air wing, it was also my observation that it was truly a thankless job.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

That podcast is wild.

 

[Gunz]

How, exactly, do you counter the claims of a 90 year-old and what he did to slay the Hun? Or even the 75 year-old and Vietnam?

For WW II, not many options except FOIA of military records or public records search. My wife found many documents about her bio-dad through Ancestry.com.

For Vietnam, a group of former SEALs used to maintain a database of all BUD/s graduates and a “Wall of Shame” for busted posers. It may not exist anymore.

There was also—back in the late 90’s—a Vietnam veteran database that had hundreds of thousands of names, branch, rank, time-in-country etc, but it was taken down.

There were some other poser-busting websites, IIRC Scout-Snipers had one.

The problem with those websites however was that they were vulnerable to litigation for legit vets who might’ve been left out of “good” lists or mistakenly added to “poser” lists. Additionally, people who pose can be litigious by nature, defending their lies with butt-hurt indignation.

I think most legit combat vets from any war have the spidey senses to detect the egregious bullshitters…embellishment is harder to detect.

 

[The Quartermaster]

For WW II, not many options except FOIA of military records or public records search. My wife found many documents about her bio-dad through Ancestry.com.

For Vietnam, a group of former SEALs used to maintain a database of all BUD/s graduates and a “Wall of Shame” for busted posers. It may not exist anymore.

There was also—back in the late 90’s—a Vietnam veteran database that had hundreds of thousands of names, branch, rank, time-in-country etc, but it was taken down.

There were some other poser-busting websites, IIRC Scout-Snipers had one.

The problem with those websites however was that they were vulnerable to litigation for legit vets who might’ve been left out of “good” lists or mistakenly added to “poser” lists. Additionally, people who pose can be litigious by nature, defending their lies with butt-hurt indignation.

I think most legit combat vets from any war have the spidey senses to detect the egregious bullshitters…embellishment is harder to detect.

I've caught people saying that they've served by just asking where they served. Truth be told I am not going to remember all the things, we get old, some of us have memory losses long or short term from TBI's. But the two things I have found to stick right along with so many vets is not forgetting the names of your drills and where you were stationed. I am assuming where being stationed will soon be muddied because soon enough there will be a generation who only knows the renamed names of the installations, posts, camps, bases, airfields, whatever yours or mine own services calls so it may be an issue at the VFW's but whatevs.

Asking what their DI's last names were is weird because it's not going to be what is expected to be asked of, but not remembering where we all had been, even our MOS's with any skill identifiers like the C2 that was added to my first MOS, 11B? C'mon man.

I am taking the names of my drills SGT Willard, SSG Jett, and SFC Bullit from OSUT to my grave, right along with burned in memory the NSN 00-909-2483.

 

[Devildoc]

For WW II, not many options except FOIA of military records or public records search. My wife found many documents about her bio-dad through Ancestry.com.

For Vietnam, a group of former SEALs used to maintain a database of all BUD/s graduates and a “Wall of Shame” for busted posers. It may not exist anymore.

There was also—back in the late 90’s—a Vietnam veteran database that had hundreds of thousands of names, branch, rank, time-in-country etc, but it was taken down.

There were some other poser-busting websites, IIRC Scout-Snipers had one.

The problem with those websites however was that they were vulnerable to litigation for legit vets who might’ve been left out of “good” lists or mistakenly added to “poser” lists. Additionally, people who pose can be litigious by nature, defending their lies with butt-hurt indignation.

I think most legit combat vets from any war have the spidey senses to detect the egregious bullshitters…embellishment is harder to detect.

There was that big fire in St. Louis which destroyed so many records, so I think World War II is often difficult to prove, but you're right in that that genealogy sites can frequently find some decent information.

Regarding Vietnam, I think there are a lot of sof-related groups that can either affirm or deny affiliation or service, but much more difficult for the average. Joe.

There is a guy who outs SF posers from any generation, and I know a guy on another site who has access to every graduate from buds, but not sure if it links service to any particular conflict.

 

[ThunderHorse]

There was that big fire in St. Louis which destroyed so many records, so I think World War II is often difficult to prove, but you're right in that that genealogy sites can frequently find some decent information.

Regarding Vietnam, I think there are a lot of sof-related groups that can either affirm or deny affiliation or service, but much more difficult for the average. Joe.

There is a guy who outs SF posers from any generation, and I know a guy on another site who has access to every graduate from buds, but not sure if it links service to any particular conflict.

My grandfather's Korea records have been hard to come by due to that fire, I looked for his DD214 after my grandmother passed and found nothing. So no idea what his awards were. What I know is he jumped into Korea 187th ARCT and was a recoilless rifleman. I have no idea if the Army a specific MOS for that at the time.

 

[AWP]

My grandfather's Korea records have been hard to come by due to that fire, I looked for his DD214 after my grandmother passed and found nothing. So no idea what his awards were. What I know is he jumped into Korea 187th ARCT and was a recoilless rifleman. I have no idea if the Army a specific MOS for that at the time.

Depends on the weapon, either a 57mm (M18 recoilless rifle - Wikipedia) or a 75mm (M20 recoilless rifle - Wikipedia).

Korean War Educator: Topics - Military Occupation Specialty
That link has the former as a 1745 and the latter as an 1812, however there are other infantry related 1745 MOS' on that page.

Army MOS Codes, Korean War Era
Has those two as MOS' for 60mm and 81mm mortars.

I trust the first link more because of how it breaks down the MOS' and specialties. I'd continue on, but dinner calls. I trust the 1745/1812 MOS.

 

[GOTWA]

Not sure it warrants its own thread, but the war against Tim Kennedy, Jocko, Luttrell, etc, is like a California wildfire in the middle of August.

 

[ThunderHorse]

All I have to say is the DoD approved all of their books. I can also tell you that Luttrell's wounds are 100% real, there's been a guy on Luttrell's jock for ages because he was a Marine on the other side and been trying to tell his side (not on the same team or even together) but supposedly that unit had passed on the mission. Like, wasn't it a reconnaissance mission that went sideways? 4 dudes on a mountain with a radio?

 

[Kraut783]

...well, ultimately a non-working radio, but yeah.

 

[ThunderHorse]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863984563011375366

 

[The Quartermaster]

All I have to say is the DoD approved all of their books. I can also tell you that Luttrell's wounds are 100% real, there's been a guy on Luttrell's jock for ages because he was a Marine on the other side and been trying to tell his side (not on the same team or even together) but supposedly that unit had passed on the mission. Like, wasn't it a reconnaissance mission that went sideways? 4 dudes on a mountain with a radio?

That even a fresh boot from boot could look at the map, see the drift and raise a hand questioning why in such an obvious danger area.