United States & Gun Control discussion.

@Muppet is right in the middle of that shit hole. Trying to get him to move out here to God’s country😀

Fucking cesspool. South Street ain't ghetto neither. All kinds of folks down there, clubs, cool eateries, near the river.

Oh, Philly. Where gun laws are strict and yet, cock roaches do dirt. Weird, how that happens. Hmmm...
 
General observation.
Kids from my teenager’s generation don’t give a shit about the Second Amendment. I would not be at all surprised if even 10 years from now the freedoms we hold dear, will become simple privileges for the few.
If that's truly the case, they deserved to be conquered and their weak bloodlines allowed to die out. Any man that doesn't prize freedom and the means to protect that freedom may as well be an emasculated mongrel.

Weak men make hard times.
 
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General observation.
Kids from my teenager’s generation don’t give a shit about the Second Amendment. I would not be at all surprised if even 10 years from now the freedoms we hold dear, will become simple privileges for the few.
I think that may be true to some degree. But to be fair, I didn't really put too much thought into the 2A when I was a teenager either. Even being brought up around guns and shooting, all I cared about was getting drunk and laid at that age. My 20 YO son does actually care more about the second amendment than I did at his age.
 
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Man in Norway bow-and-arrow attack pleads guilty to murder

A man charged with killing five people and wounding four others in southern Norway when he attacked strangers with a bow and arrows and knives has pleaded guilty to murder and attempted murder
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Nothing like rushing through legislation with an intent to usurp peoples rights. Guess I need to go buy a ton of standard capacity magazines.


The "high capacity" wording in the bill is in there to make the bill unpalatable to center left Dems and the whole GOP. The party heads get to say "we tried!" but they don't actually have to change anything.

It's purely political theater.
 
General observation.
Kids from my teenager’s generation don’t give a shit about the Second Amendment. I would not be at all surprised if even 10 years from now the freedoms we hold dear, will become simple privileges for the few.
I've said it before on this board and I'll say it again; the right wing answer of "any laws on guns are infringement" is going to be what causes a total ban in this country.

Mass killings can happen anywhere and with anything, like that bow attack in Norway shows.

But the severity and commonality of mass deaths by shootings are a purely American problem.

The younger generations aren't stupid. They can look at every other country that has tighter restrictions and see how fucked up we are. They can see that the GOP response of "we need to fix mental health" doesn't hold water for a party that consistently votes against access to that health care. They can see that the idea of "give teachers guns" doesn't make sense in an already stressful and underpaid profession.

I'm not saying that the DNC is right to try and reenact a ban (they aren't), but I am saying that there is only one party that actually seems to be trying to fix the issue. That's a problem.

If you don't try to fix the issue and maintain the right to bear arms, you'll lose that right.
For all the people bitching about "liberals trying to disarm us", you're going to bring it upon yourself in some weird self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
I understand not a lot of love in the senate for the house bill. We'll see.

What's painfully funny is, there is not a single thing in that bill that actually does anything tangible except to provide a soundbite.
The closest thing to useful in that bill was a incentive (tax break, I think) for gun safes/storage. There was also something about guidelines for extreme risk red flag laws, but I haven't read it yet to see it was written in an acceptable way or not.
 
I've said it before on this board and I'll say it again; the right wing answer of "any laws on guns are infringement" is going to be what causes a total ban in this country.

Mass killings can happen anywhere and with anything, like that bow attack in Norway shows.

But the severity and commonality of mass deaths by shootings are a purely American problem.

The younger generations aren't stupid. They can look at every other country that has tighter restrictions and see how fucked up we are. They can see that the GOP response of "we need to fix mental health" doesn't hold water for a party that consistently votes against access to that health care. They can see that the idea of "give teachers guns" doesn't make sense in an already stressful and underpaid profession.

I'm not saying that the DNC is right to try and reenact a ban (they aren't), but I am saying that there is only one party that actually seems to be trying to fix the issue. That's a problem.

If you don't try to fix the issue and maintain the right to bear arms, you'll lose that right.
For all the people bitching about "liberals trying to disarm us", you're going to bring it upon yourself in some weird self-fulfilling prophecy.

Hahahahaha. Ever been to a Banelieue? What is the issue to fix? That people aren't educated on the value of life?

There's an entire section on 9 News in Australia about stabbings: Stabbing - 9News - Latest news and headlines from Australia and the world
 
Hahahahaha. Ever been to a Banelieue? What is the issue to fix? That people aren't educated on the value of life?

There's an entire section on 9 News in Australia about stabbings: Stabbing - 9News - Latest news and headlines from Australia and the world
Did you miss the entire part where I said violent crimes still happen everywhere, but shootings are a mostly American thing? And that it's this fixation on ignoring the actual issue is what's going to cause a loss of the right to bear arms?

You're literally being an example of missing the point when you go "but Australia has stabbings!!!"

the view from gun owners is If you allow the rights to erode, you'll also lose that right.
Every single Constitutional right has limitations, whether we agree with them or not.

If those who support the right to bear arms refuse to be part of the conversation on what acceptable limitations are, don't be surprised when the people who don't give a shit about the 2A are the ones that win in the long run. The time of saying "all legislation is unconstitutional" is fading away.
The only people I see talking about gun regulations that maintain the right to bear arms are leftists. I'm not talking ANTIFA soy boys, Latte liberals, or college socialists when I use that term btw, I mean more anarcho-left/social libertarian types.
 
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