United States & Gun Control discussion.

[AWP]

So...a gun registry. Maybe not current and certainly not complete, but it is a de facto gun registry particularly for those who....follow the law.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Um...what!?

 

[Kraut783]

I think this is a standard gun trace that the ATF does any time a gun is used in a crime. It sounds like they contacted the selling FFL and he gave them the 4173.

Alternately, if that FFL was surrendered, the yeah they have those records.

Yep, since the gun dealer closed, they had all the records. It's been this way for at least 30 years that I know of.

If anyone is paranoid, just buy a gun from a private seller....

LEOs have a database for trying to trace guns used in a crime....it sends a request to ATF, they check the records from the manufacture to whatever FFL it goes to and then who bought the gun. From there they can see who it was sold to, if they bought from FFL. If the gun is ever sold privately, the paper trail ends. The search can take a day to a month....they just got lucky with this one.

The database is great for recovery of stolen guns and getting them back to the owner, I've used it a lot.

 

[policemedic]

Um, what?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/how-atf-identified-trump-rally-shooter/index.html



How is this not a national gun registry? I thought the AF was supposed to destroy those records within 90 days?

You silly boy.

 

[policemedic]

Under the GCA, Congress authorized a decentralized system of recordkeeping allowing ATF to trace a firearm’s chain of commerce, from manufacturer or importer to dealer, and to the first retail purchaser of record. FFLs are required to maintain firearms transaction records for a minimum of 20 years under previously promulgated ATF regulations, and to submit a minimum of 20 years of their most recent transaction records to ATF whenever they go out of business (27 C.F.R. §478.129)

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12057

 

[ThunderHorse]

So...a gun registry. Maybe not current and certainly not complete, but it is a de facto gun registry particularly for those who....follow the law.

Pretty much. All these assholes on the left act like there aren't background checks or a registry...yet...there are both. Not great.

 

[Topkick]

Never thought I'd support Letitia James, but I hope she's successful in getting Wayne LaPierre permanently banned from the NRA.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

 

[Muppet]

Enjoy.

I'm stage 2 with aspirations of stage 5 if Maria would agree to exfil to ozarks.

 

[Topkick]

Enjoy.

I'm stage 2 with aspirations of stage 5 if Maria would agree to exfil to ozarks.

Ruby Ridge is all I needed to understand that freedom in America is really just an illusion. I'm prepared to hold some ground. I'm not a prepper, but its a pretty cool hobby and can't hurt.

 

[AWP]

Massachusetts went a bit hard in the paint with some new gun laws.

My favorite modern Masshole story is the crime lab which sent more people to jail illegally than Kamala Harris and the woman who did nothing while Attorney General is now the Governor.

Huh... a state attorney general who is a Democrat and a woman, openly violating their constituent's civil rights and failing upwards? Weird, I'm glad there's not a trend right now...

 

[The Quartermaster]

Enjoy.

I'm stage 2 with aspirations of stage 5 if Maria would agree to exfil to ozarks.

I did not watch yet, but I was doing this at that very moment it was posted before being satisfied enough to move forward for the rifle it's going on next.

 

[Topkick]

So Bob Barr is the president of the NRA now. He's a flip-flopping former politician who's been an NRA board member for years. Nah, still not re-joining the NRA.

 

[Muppet]

Some shit with former DEVGRU guys from GBRS...

Beitrag von The Civil Rights Lawyer

 

[AWP]

The CIA doesn't redact documents that thoroughly.

 

[Topkick]

Tim Walz wants to ban guns he used in war. Except he didn't.

https://freebeacon.com/elections/ti...n-guns-he-carried-in-war-he-never-saw-combat/

FWIW..I'm a retired 1SG, but in 2024, I identify as a CSM.

 

[Blizzard]

Tim Walz wants to ban guns he used in war. Except he didn't.

Tim Walz Said He Wants To Ban Guns He ‘Carried in War.’ He Never Saw Combat.

FWIW..I'm a retired 1SG, but in 2024, I identify as a CSM.

So, that means no gun ban, right?!

 

[The Quartermaster]

Interesting. The fudd thinks the 2A is only for hunting. The 2A is also to keep the government from finding out if they ever decide to mess around, which is what war is.

 

[Topkick]

Interesting. The fudd thinks the 2A is only for hunting. The 2A is also to keep the government from finding out if they ever decide to mess around, which is what war is.

That guy is THE definition of a Fudd.

 

[AWP]

Tim Walz wants to ban guns he used in war. Except he didn't.

He was armed when BLM was burning down his state? He sure as hell didn't see combat in Iraq...