United States & Gun Control discussion.

Marauder06 said:
I'm OK with both strong 2A protection and with some aspects of sweatshop labor.

Two Cheers for Sweatshops
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Agree with a strong 2A, but I wouldn't trust a multinational that's using child labor to sell products to the US. At the end of the day, multi-nationals who take advantage of cheap labor just care about their bottom line. People being brought out of poverty due to foreign investment is a happy side effect.

I dunno. I'd like to have companies invest in the US and their workers, instead of draining the wealth from our pockets.
 
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Outsourcing low skill manual labor to developing countries helps keep prices for those good lower here in the US, allows our workforce to concentrate on higher value labor, and provides economic opportunities that otherwise never would have existed in those countries.

A corporation's job is to be concerned about the bottom line. The positive externality of being able to afford to eat, or send your kids to school, or to be able to buy a mosquito net so your family doesn't die of malaria (example from the article) seem a lot better than the alternatives.

I'm happy my shirt costs $19.99 instead of $40. The workers in Bangladesh (or wherever) are happy that they're getting paid something past the poverty level in their country. And Wal-Mart is happy because they can make a bazillion dollars putting the two of us together. Seems like a lot of win-win.
 
Marauder06 said:
Outsourcing low skill manual labor to developing countries helps keep prices for those good lower here in the US, allows our workforce to concentrate on higher value labor, and provides economic opportunities that otherwise never would have existed in those countries.

A corporation's job is to be concerned about the bottom line. The positive externality of being able to afford to eat, or send your kids to school, or to be able to buy a mosquito net so your family doesn't die of malaria (example from the article) seem a lot better than the alternatives.

I'm happy my shirt costs $19.99 instead of $40. The workers in Bangladesh (or wherever) are happy that they're getting paid something past the poverty level in their country. And Wal-Mart is happy because they can make a bazillion dollars putting the two of us together. Seems like a lot of win-win.
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The problem with cheap labor is that we are/have basically propped up totalitarian gov's that created the poverty that kept their populations in thrall. A perfect example of this is China. We can get all sorts of cheap chinesium junk delivered to our doorstep, but we've also essentially funded the military build up of a totalitarian police state. The people in China and the surrounding Asian countries are now pretty much boned, all cause multi-nationals wanted to squeeze a few more dollars out of the US consumer.

The products that multi-nationals produce could also easily be made at home (albeit w/heavy mechanization) or across the border for a few dollars more. That 19.99 shirt probably cost that multi-national under 2.00 to make and ship, maybe even cheaper. You're not really getting a deal just cause labor is dirt cheap, if anything you're getting ripped off more.

Going back to my original post though, not a fan of multi-nationals preaching morality when they're literally taking advantage of people with no better recourses. All the while these corp's cozy up to totalitarian/despotic governments who deny their citizens the right to keep and bear arms.
 
I had a long discussion with 'Little Cletus' - he's just a regular kid and he wants us all to know the real truth about child labor laws, ok?
They're silly and outdated !!!
Why, back in the 30s, children as young as five could work as they pleased; from textile factories to iron smelts.
Yippee!
Hurray!
Little Cletus thinks there should be more guns for Americans!
 
Governor Inslee just signed a raft of 7 bills that touch on gun control.

Here's an article that describes each of the 7 and links out to the text of the bills.

Here's a reddit comment that points out some ways in which one of the 7 bills (which focusses on 3D printed / homemade guns) is bad - probably both more broad and more narrow than intended.
 
Board and Seize said:
Governor Inslee just signed a raft of 7 bills that touch on gun control.

Here's an article that describes each of the 7 and links out to the text of the bills.

Here's a reddit comment that points out some ways in which one of the 7 bills (which focusses on 3D printed / homemade guns) is bad - probably both more broad and more narrow than intended.
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To call Inslee a retard would be an affront to people with valid intellectual disabilities. Sadly, Washington State is pretty much run by the coastal socialist shitbirds that dominate the election cycle in WA (Hooray Seattle!). The people outside of Seattle, in Eastern Washington, pretty much got boned by the purple haired SJW LGTBQIOUBBQ citiots.

Honestly, I'm not sure what rural counties are going to do to change the balance of power. As long as the major cities and their voting blocks are held hostage by nutjobs like Inslee, not sure what can be done to remedy the situation.
 
Board and Seize said:
Governor Inslee just signed a raft of 7 bills that touch on gun control.

Here's an article that describes each of the 7 and links out to the text of the bills.

Here's a reddit comment that points out some ways in which one of the 7 bills (which focusses on 3D printed / homemade guns) is bad - probably both more broad and more narrow than intended.
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Outside of Oympia and Seattle most of the Sheriffs in Washington are not abiding. Vice of course did an episode on them painting them with a horrible brush. The idea of county nullification is spreading in places like Illinois as well.
 
ThunderHorse said:
Outside of Oympia and Seattle most of the Sheriffs in Washington are not abiding. Vice of course did an episode on them painting them with a horrible brush. The idea of county nullification is spreading in places like Illinois as well.
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It's awesome that Sheriffs and counties are standing up to the lunacy of Seattle's leftists, but I still don't trust the state itself. Washington state still has control over the roads, national (state parks... doh! my bad) parks, and courts, which makes non compliance a tenuous affair. There are just so many ways to get jammed up and turned into felon. Honestly, I try to avoid Washington like the plague.
Devildoc said:
Many traditionally anti-gun states are seeing this, also Maryland.
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Have the States out East retaliated against the counties and Sheriffs pushing for non compliance?
 
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Devildoc said:
Many traditionally anti-gun states are seeing this, also Maryland.
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Shit, there is HUGE support for giving state gov power to decide who can defend themselves. The list is small an We the People ain’t on it.

Maryland’s judiciary fielded 302 requests to remove firearms from individuals over the first three months of the state’s “red flag” gun safety law — including five cases involving threats against schools.

“These orders are not only being issued appropriately; they are saving lives,” Montgomery County Sheriff Darren Popkin, a leader in the Maryland Sheriffs’ Association who helped develop the law, testified Tuesday before the House of Delegates’ Judiciary Committee.

“It’s averaging a little over 100 a month,” Popkin said. “This is by far more orders than has been seen in any other state. … We are one of the only states that allows for this to be issued 24 hours a day.”
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Sheriff: Maryland's 'red flag' law prompted gun seizures after four 'significant threats' against schools
 
Well...if he can't take our guns, he will do his best to make them inoperative when needed. I give him an A+ for effort and perseverance -- along with the rest of the anti-gun clowns....
 
But remember friends, "Buy a shotgun", but with that logic there, his wife wouldn't be able to fire two blasts off the back porch because they'd be fingerprint locked to him so hm.... Curious concept there Joe Biden.
 
RackMaster said:
Crazy Uncle Joe is at it again.

Joe Biden pitches fingerprint-locked firearms to reduce gun violence
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If one candidate comes up with an idea for gun control, all the other candidates have to come up with their own ideas...and most of them are fucking stupid. The candidates...and the ideas. They'll all try to top each other with their Larry Lightbulb gun control ideas, and if by chance one of these morons gets elected, the idea will never become legislation. It's all just bull pizzle, I tell you...Bull pizzle.
 

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