GT score matters for a lot of things actually. There are many paths in the military that require a certain GT score, not just for MOS's, but certain units and certain schools as well.
Whats your backup plan?
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I scored 89, 85 and then 113 on the DLAB. I don't believe it's an accurate guage for measuring one's ability to learn a language. The test is just so bizarre. There's a book out there, google "delta and DLAB." Helped raise my score from 85-113..
You're totally right. I should've said something along the line of "Above 110 it doent matter".
I think its a pretty good indicator of the ability to learn and apply grammar rules, but that misses the other big part of language learning: Ability to memorize and use vocabulary. Take me for example: I can say that I speak 5 languages; English, Japanese, German, Dari and Farsi. Of those, I can apply grammar rules pretty well, but I dont remember shit for vocabulary for anything besides Dari/Farsi. And even then, it took me daily drills while in Afghanistan to retain that stuff, because my memory is pretty crap. So yeah, I scored well on the DLAB, but my ability to learn languages is still more constrained than the test would have you think.
I'll agree with that. 110 is pretty much the highest thresh hold you will see out there.
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I am a 21B and from my experience i would say just go with the Infantry if you can. From what I've been told by the guys who didn't make it you just go 11B now, since you do 11B OSUT before you report for pre-SFAS, however i worked with a guy who was an x-ray from 2006 and he got to choose and became a 21B. It seems like they have made changes over the past few years.
Well it sucks to have to say this, but I had to act on my backup plan. Actually I had to come up with an alternative backup plan and then act on it. I just got home after completing airborne school. I was supposed to be in SOPC hold right now with my buddies. Unfortunately something came up at home that required me to drop my SF contract. I'm being sent to an Airborne Infantry unit until I resolve my issue and get to the next SFAD to hopefully earn my ticket to SFAS. If all goes as planned, I will only be 4-6 months behind where I wanted to be.
No use crying over this, so I'll make the best of it. I spent a good chunk of OSUT and BAC sick and I feel as though I actually lost strength while there. So I'll be able to get into even better shape than I was prior to shipping.
No use crying over this, so I'll make the best of it. I spent a good chunk of OSUT and BAC sick and I feel as though I actually lost strength while there. So I'll be able to get into even better shape than I was prior to shipping.
I don't think anyone goes through any kind of basic training 100% healthy the entire time. I felt like a different kind of shit every week it seemed like.
Sorry to hear about your set back. Get back into shape and kill it next time around.
Sorry to hear about your set back. Get back into shape and kill it next time around.
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I want to begin by cautioning others on myself. I am very straight forward and abrupt. I do not waste time with the tiny minutiae. I speak for many when I say failure is not an option. Just as when the president, or grandma in a hostage rescue, needs a no-fail option, they need to be able to trust the ones wearing the scope or boots on the ground to do their job and not doubt themselves. In saying, I firmly believe that when I step foot on Indoc, that it will be the first and last time. Failure is not an option and neither is quitting. Placing "Back Up" thoughts in your mind is when you'll have to have it. Cause then you accept failure.
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How is having a contingency plan accepting failure? Re-read this thread and you might understand my question. I understand where you are coming from, but it is an immature/ignorant response IMO. Read up and see if you find the meaning behind the question at the heart of this thread.
It isn't preparing yourself for quitting. Its a backup plan. You don't have to quit but if you break an ankle, tear a muscle or get no-go'ed on an event you're done. Then you need to know where your next step is. As in everything, things don't go 100% according to plan. When that happens you need to make moves to keep moving forward. Without taking other possiblities into account you'll only end up hurting yourself in the long run. I have no intention of quiting or failing but im sure neither to 75-80% that washout.
These guys wouldn't have started this thread unless it was with our best interests at heart. Im sure some of them have had to take more than 1 crack at making it through selection.
Noted.
You speak for yourself, none others. The others don't need your representation here. We don't delete posts, edit posts, or discourage from discourse. Look through my postings- I encourage dissent from the newest person to the most experienced professional. You don't need to speak for anyone, just as you wouldn't want anyone to speak for you. And if you say "failure is not an option", I suspect you haven't studied your SOF history properly. Failure is well documented.
Stop it. You have no clue what it means to do this job- from the mission, the trust others place in us, or what the mindset of the individual needs to be. You are making an assumption from a faulty set of facts.
I am not real sure if you've read the rest of this thread, but it appears you haven't. We have already discussed your point of view and found it to be naive. I haven't been through indoc in a while, but last I remember we said "Never Quit" every single time we left that building.
Since you disregarded prior information and took a hard line in public on your second post to the forum, here is your charge- you explain to me how it is that if you fail at indoc, that it will be your first and last time that you'll be there. You're telling me that if you fail, you will be done? That's it? You'll take that shot on the chin and roll over, never to return? One setback and you're done?
I will say it again, because it bears repeating and you apparently missed it. Failure is an option. You can fail. And if you become a PJ, you'll literally fail hundreds of times in your career, and that's just getting your beret. If you think your "no-fail" attitude is going to get you there, I absolutely can not wait until you work for me on a team, if you get that far.
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Read and understood-LOST&Atlas
LOST- in order to redeem myself from my "immaturatity/ignorance" I will say that I say this from what I've been told. When you want something you fight for it. When you fit into something, you work endlessly. If I hit a nerve or said something that was "untrue" for the thread then accept this as my redemption. Now, as I said that, it will stoke others to view they're plans in a different way. (Reason for the thread, right?)
Atlas- thank you for how you said what you had to say. Very well spoken and very well received. Mark of a leader. If I may ask, what is your current status?
But yes, I have thought about injuries forcing me out of the position I want. The reason for practicing early, stressing the small things, never sacrificing form for what's easier.
And Very true about plans never going right. That's why we make different egress routes, right? Different ways to the exact same spot. Home.
"Boots point forward"
LOST- in order to redeem myself from my "immaturatity/ignorance" I will say that I say this from what I've been told. When you want something you fight for it. When you fit into something, you work endlessly. If I hit a nerve or said something that was "untrue" for the thread then accept this as my redemption. Now, as I said that, it will stoke others to view they're plans in a different way. (Reason for the thread, right?)
Atlas- thank you for how you said what you had to say. Very well spoken and very well received. Mark of a leader. If I may ask, what is your current status?
But yes, I have thought about injuries forcing me out of the position I want. The reason for practicing early, stressing the small things, never sacrificing form for what's easier.
And Very true about plans never going right. That's why we make different egress routes, right? Different ways to the exact same spot. Home.
"Boots point forward"
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Tadpole95,
I highly disagree with your post. When I went to selection I had every thought in my head that I will finish and be successful. That being said, I knew the very high potential for injury or just getting no-go'ed and not getting selected so I told myself that if that happens I will go back to the battalion and be the best Recce Patrolman, machine gunner or whatever they wanted me to be to the best of my ability.
With that said, do you think that had me thinking I wasn't going to finish or not get selected? If you said yes your wrong and you need to work on things.
You got any questions with what I've said feel free to PM and I'll try to elaborate.
I highly disagree with your post. When I went to selection I had every thought in my head that I will finish and be successful. That being said, I knew the very high potential for injury or just getting no-go'ed and not getting selected so I told myself that if that happens I will go back to the battalion and be the best Recce Patrolman, machine gunner or whatever they wanted me to be to the best of my ability.
With that said, do you think that had me thinking I wasn't going to finish or not get selected? If you said yes your wrong and you need to work on things.
You got any questions with what I've said feel free to PM and I'll try to elaborate.
Listen Tadpole....your jingoistic motospeak sounds.....it sounds just awesome, killer. Here's the problem:
It is garbage, utter nonsense.
What video game did you pull this from? Do you speak like this day-to-day? Do you blouse your pants in your boots? Are you "that guy" in high school who tries to act like he knows everything about the military and no one talks to you, but they're just "pansy liberals" who don't "get" what it is to be an American?
I love these teenagers who spout crap like "With your shield or on it" or make some connection to the 300 or whatever. Digest a speech from Shakespeare if you want to show some warrior-monk chops, quote Sun-Tsu or the Wu-Tang Clan or whatever, develop that deep sounding stone-cold-killer vibe. I get it, I do...I understand the process.
It is still crap.
When I read a post so hardcore it makes a John Philip Sousa march sound like Das Kapital the Opera, then I know we're in for a treat. You're taking cool sounding phrases and stacking them up like Legos. The problem with Legos is that one day you lose one, then you step on it, it hurts your foot, and then you hop into traffic where a bus runs you over.
I'm going to go with troll. You are probably still in high school, but you're trolling. You can't be serious. Besides, a week in FL in early March? Isn't Spring Break in a week or two?
It is garbage, utter nonsense.
What video game did you pull this from? Do you speak like this day-to-day? Do you blouse your pants in your boots? Are you "that guy" in high school who tries to act like he knows everything about the military and no one talks to you, but they're just "pansy liberals" who don't "get" what it is to be an American?
I love these teenagers who spout crap like "With your shield or on it" or make some connection to the 300 or whatever. Digest a speech from Shakespeare if you want to show some warrior-monk chops, quote Sun-Tsu or the Wu-Tang Clan or whatever, develop that deep sounding stone-cold-killer vibe. I get it, I do...I understand the process.
It is still crap.
When I read a post so hardcore it makes a John Philip Sousa march sound like Das Kapital the Opera, then I know we're in for a treat. You're taking cool sounding phrases and stacking them up like Legos. The problem with Legos is that one day you lose one, then you step on it, it hurts your foot, and then you hop into traffic where a bus runs you over.
I'm going to go with troll. You are probably still in high school, but you're trolling. You can't be serious. Besides, a week in FL in early March? Isn't Spring Break in a week or two?
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Sadly, you don't know what you don't know. I don't say that a lot, and I generally stay out of .mil SOF discussions as my selection experience is limited to SWAT, but damn.
Sometimes a little failure in life is good for you. Gives you some perspective on things. Makes you feel nice and small. The powers that be have a way of cutting us down to size when we've grown too tall.
I get the "failure is not an option" thing, but at some point in your travels you will contemplate stopping before the job is done. We all have. It never hurts to have a PACE plan. I never leave for work without one regardless of how good I feel about what's before me. Murphy has a way of interjecting when you least expect it. Sometimes what happens ain't up to you.
Keep in mind, getting into the unit is the easy part.
Use your ears more than your mouth and stay humble.
Buena Suerte on your endeavors.
In response to the original question...
I plan on getting into the Air Force with another job first, most likely an Intel job like Geo Analyst or possibly an Operations Analyst (If Pararescue doesn't work out having an Intel background and experience would be good for other government jobs). Hopefully within a timely manner I can get the PRK surgery required to fix my vision and throughout that time period continue to train up to "graduation standards". By the time the healing process has taken place and the doctor gives me the approval to take the PAST I will move forward with the Pararescue process. Becoming a PJ is the main reason I'm joining the Air Force, if something happens and I don't make it I will continue to try until I no longer can't.
I plan on getting into the Air Force with another job first, most likely an Intel job like Geo Analyst or possibly an Operations Analyst (If Pararescue doesn't work out having an Intel background and experience would be good for other government jobs). Hopefully within a timely manner I can get the PRK surgery required to fix my vision and throughout that time period continue to train up to "graduation standards". By the time the healing process has taken place and the doctor gives me the approval to take the PAST I will move forward with the Pararescue process. Becoming a PJ is the main reason I'm joining the Air Force, if something happens and I don't make it I will continue to try until I no longer can't.
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