Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

A female Officer just attempted SASR selection, she got about 9 days in, but had been dragging the chain almost since day one. She did everything, even the nude kit check on day one, but just didn't have the horse power, very fit, but not big enough.
I think this will remain the case until we see some young women who in a previous life were big and tall, serious top level strength athletes, throwing disciplines, rugby forwards, Olympic lifters, enlisting and attempting selection. A 5'6" 110lb cross fitter is just not going to have the grunt power to keep up on a top flight Infantry/SOF course.

I'm sorry...nude kit check?
 
Traditional part of SASR selection, pretty sure they do it in 2 Commando selection too. Gets people off guard, just a bit of added stress. Kit being the gear they've bought on selection, not an inspection of their dangly bits...
 
Nothing official is out, just what I'm hearing from multiple sources.

Then there's this:
 

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Nothing official is out, just what I'm hearing from multiple sources.

Then there's this:

That is a classic rant but rings true. It seems the women who failed are pissed because they didn't get a pass and/or are not to be welcomed back? Being outside my lane (I am not a Ranger) is this normal or just in some cases?
 
That is a classic rant but rings true. It seems the women who failed are pissed because they didn't get a pass and/or are not to be welcomed back? Being outside my lane (I am not a Ranger) is this normal or just in some cases?

This particular husband has been extremely critical of the entire process, and pushing the "inequality" line time and time again.

The standard is the same for everyone.
 
This particular husband has been extremely critical of the entire process, and pushing the "inequality" line time and time again.

The standard is the same for everyone.

I agree. I mean is it normal for those dropped not to be invited back or is it...few and far between?
 
That is a classic rant but rings true. It seems the women who failed are pissed because they didn't get a pass and/or are not to be welcomed back? Being outside my lane (I am not a Ranger) is this normal or just in some cases?

It is extremely difficult for someone to try their hardest at something and accept the fact that despite all their efforts they are simply not good enough.
 
And yeah, the feedback is there are a bunch of sour grapes in the bunch.

The Board is still in session. As for the 8, they've had 2 shots at this (Along with several males as well) and more than likely, will be returned back to their duty stations.

Should be getting the official word shortly.
 
Here's the remainder of the comment Worldweaver posted earlier:
 

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. As for the 8, they've had 2 shots at this (Along with several males as well) and more than likely, will be returned back to their duty stations.

CM, I think that is what is lost in this entire discussion. Hundreds of males fail this course every time, without recourse or complaint. I've know men that have made it to the last week of Florida, just to be dropped for honor violations. Unfortunately for them, they didn't have anyone to blame but themselves, not the "subjective RI" fairy or a misogynistic command.

I honestly expected some of these females to make it through, but that's what I get for lumping soldiers into gender specific categories. Ultimately, it appears that these soldiers just couldn't cut it.
 
CM, I think that is what is lost in this entire discussion. Hundreds of males fail this course every time, without recourse or complaint. I've know men that have made it to the last week of Florida, just to be dropped for honor violations. Unfortunately for them, they didn't have anyone to blame but themselves, not the "subjective RI" fairy or a misogynistic command.

I honestly expected some of these females to make it through, but that's what I get for lumping soldiers into gender specific categories. Ultimately, it appears that these soldiers just couldn't cut it.

Brother,

Honestly, short of them having their OR's filled as GO's ahead of time, they were given every opportunity, expertise and guidance, to get them ready enough to attend. Some people can do hand stands. Others can surf. Some chase the little white ball around. I know I can't do any of that and I think that's the point.

Sometimes, there's a greater force in effect, that exists, known as the Great Equalizer.

It's a damn shame that the ones in a position, that have a say, and have been pushing this social engineering experiment, have never attended the "Suck" in the first place, let alone, ever been in combat or a combat arms billet. And that's what really grinds my gears.
 
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