Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

[Ranger Psych]

Dude, they got permanent orders awarding the tab.

No order is permanent, if you're a complete and utter shitbag it can be stripped, same as you can lose a long tab if you're an absolute douchenozzle.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Well the orders actually say "Permanent Order #" but yeah, you are right they can be revoked.

 

[AWP]

Their training records disappeared? How many of their male classmates' records have disappeared?

Tabs, wings, badges, etc. can be revoked. These won't so we can forget about that conversation. They could walk into the Vatican munching on a baby's head and keep their tabs.

 

[Brill]

Their training records disappeared? How many of their male classmates' records have disappeared?

Tabs, wings, badges, etc. can be revoked. These won't so we can forget about that conversation. They could walk into the Vatican munching on a baby's head and keep their tabs.

Are we sure they are who we were told they are? Looks to me like some GLG-20s on their way to Dushanbe!

 

[Lunch Pail]

This is from Loren "notaseal" Schofield's blog (Sofrep and Havok Journal writer) : First Female Non-Infantry Qualified Drill Instructor Will Start Training Future Infantrymen

The actual article from Fort Bliss Bugle: ‘Ready First’ Soldier breaks infantry boundary as a female | Fort Bliss Bugle

I will withhold my opinion, unless asked for, as it holds no water due to lack of experience, but looks like I have a chance to be one of the first with a female DI at 11x OSUT.

Additionally, here is the Rand report about considerations for integrating women in SOF.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

This is from Loren "notaseal" Schofield's blog (Sofrep and Havok Journal writer) : First Female Non-Infantry Qualified Drill Instructor Will Start Training Future Infantrymen

The actual article from Fort Bliss Bugle: ‘Ready First’ Soldier breaks infantry boundary as a female | Fort Bliss Bugle

I will withhold my opinion, unless asked for, as it holds no water due to lack of experience, but looks like I have a chance to be one of the first with a female DI at 11x OSUT.

Additionally, here is the Rand report about considerations for integrating women in SOF.

That female drill is in for a rude awakening at sand hill, we'll see how much shit she talks on the stairway to heaven (12 miles up at a 15 minute pace).

 

[Lunch Pail]

That female drill is in for a rude awakening at sand hill, we'll see how much shit she talks on the stairway to heaven (12 miles up at a 15 minute pace).

According to the PT Test results Mr. Schofield provided, I think everyone will still be recovering from trying to keep up on her blistering 15:48 2 mile.

 

[Poccington]

She'll certainly keep up on the ruck marches... If they make all the recruits crawl.

15:48 for a 2 mile run... Fuck. Off.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Oh man, of course they'd come from 1st BDE...

 

[pardus]

According to the PT Test results Mr. Schofield provided, I think everyone will still be recovering from trying to keep up on her blistering 15:48 2 mile.

Have you done a single PT test in the Army yet?

let me give you some advice for free, STFU.

 

[policemedic]

I will withhold my opinion, unless asked for, as it holds no water due to lack of experience, but looks like I have a chance to be one of the first with a female DI at 11x OSUT.

Feel free to address those men and women wearing campaign hats at Fort Benning as Drill Instructor. Let us know how that works out for you.

You have some research to do before you get to Fort Benning.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Met a drill CPL, once, but I don't think it was his first time making E4 and pretty sure he was waiting on orders to a line unit. Not at Benning, Ft Sill of all places.

 

[Lunch Pail]

@pardus @policemedic @Diamondback 2/2 -Understood. Those comments were out of line and disrespectful. Will not happen again. Apologies for the derail.

 

[Gunz]

I can't imagine the Corps ever going in for female DIs at male MCRD or at SOI...but since Obama took office every day is a crap shoot.

 

[ThunderHorse]

The last bullet...gender neutral standards...yeah right. Everything is in favor of women in the military.

Obama signs defense bill, finalizing military retirement overhaul

 

[Marine0311]

Fucking stupid.

 

[DocIllinois]

So what's the intended endstate for military personnel here?

This? :-/

 

[Red Flag 1]

So what's the intended endstate for military personnel here?

This? :-/

Perhaps with the same IQ too. Our leadership by the POTUS after Bush, has done some wonderful things with, to, and for our military. Stay tunned, his final year may be the most exciting yet:wall:?

 

[Ranger Psych]

The last bullet...gender neutral standards...yeah right. Everything is in favor of women in the military.

Obama signs defense bill, finalizing military retirement overhaul

I know you're cav, and an officer to boot, but are you truly that dense? I mean, pretty much everyone here agreed that in order to do be able to have an genderless requirement, a single standard was going to have to come about in lieu of the current unequal ranking of men and women in the service.

It was going to get called gender neutral as that's the term these days.

You can nail in the coffin and rabble all you want, but for one you're not in a field that's under much threat of female infiltration or has much in the way of standards anyway so I don't really see what you're bawwing about.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I'm not worried about any female infiltration, I'm in favor of their being one standard, but make the standard high not lower. Reminds me of when VMI went to two physical standards rather than one, the female Standards became tremendously degraded...but the male standard also degraded. We either do this the correct way, or we have a huge impact on readiness.