Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

[Ooh-Rah]

You haven't lived until you've milked a moose at 0430 in December in Alaska.

I just had to look it up...

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I grew up on a pachyderm dairy farm. In the 90s, there wasn't a huge demand for pachyderm milk, so money was tight and the equipment was in bad shape. There were a lot of mornings I had to milk the rhinos and elephants by hand!!!

I just had to look it up...

 

[8654Maine]

Pshaw, that ain't nothing.

Try milking cats. I had a buddy of mine, that little Focker, who was an expert.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Pshaw, that ain't nothing.

Try milking cats. I had a buddy of mine, that little Focker, who was an expert.

I just had to look it up...

 

[Florida173]

This thread has digressed into a pile of dog shit. wtf?

 

[Brill]

This thread has digressed into a pile of dog shit. wtf?

The thread or DOD's policy?

 

[metalmom]

Though I have read a lot of your thoughts and opinions I keep going back to what Viper 1 stated on the first page and fully agree with his opinion on all points. Back in the 80s there was a concern that if women were let into the Infantry-there would be a lot more male casualties because of their need to protect a female and 3 guys or more would run out to help her if she went down instead of maybe 1 or 2 to help their buddy Never bought that.When women were finally allowed in to Battle School I believe ony 1 or 2 made it. Rack is probably more in the know about that. I dont like what I heard if true that women are crying harassment down there unless it was a sexual offense. Im bringing up the old stuff because it is not much different from then than today. If someone can prove they are tough enough and qualify-whats the big deal. I for one am rooting for these women who are going after what they want and will stand behind them wishing them success. As Diamondback stated-bring on the hate if you must bros.:)

I have been thinking on this and had a memory come back.Once a yr Officers could come into our Jr. Ranks mess.They ask for permission to enter-we never said no.So a Major that had been giving me a rough ride intentionally sat down across from me and said some explicit demeaning words.All my guys-brothers -slammed their beers dowm and stood up and said-Sir you cant talk to her like that.So for those that have stated males instincts are to protect females I agree..And this wasnt in the field or combat situation.Still cant retract my former statement but can now understand the other side of this.

 

[Florida173]

Female police officer joins Army Infantry, claims it will be "similar” to her job

Here we go. First female enlisting 11X

 

[Marine0311]

Female police officer joins Army Infantry, claims it will be "similar” to her job

Here we go. First female enlisting 11X

This won't work.

 

[Gunz]

The proponents will claim it works and someday in combat people will die.

 

[Grunt]

I wish she fully understood the fact that law enforcement and being a grunt are worlds apart and never the two shall meet!

Two different jobs and two different mindsets.

 

[Kraut783]

Female police officer joins Army Infantry, claims it will be "similar” to her job

Here we go. First female enlisting 11X

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......I've been a Police Officer for 29 years, retired from USAR, two combat deployments. It is NOT the same thing.....what an idiot.


edit:
WAIT...she is a FORMER Police Officer at the age of 25, at the most she has 4 years as an officer....so she failed at being a police officer, decides to join the Infantry :wall:

 

[Gunz]

So maybe she's a quitter and non-hack and pretty soon she's gonna get a big smack of reality right in the face...

unless politics lubricates her historic destiny as the first female ground-pounder, which I suspect it will...

 

[AWP]

Somehow I don't think she's the brightest bulb and is being set up. We'll see how this plays out. Like I posted with Ranger School, at some point the cadre will talk and this will be no different. The outcome may be no different either.

 

[Grunt]

One of the worst parts of this will be the "eyes" that will be focused on her class. They will serve as a living "experiment." I feel sorry for all of them as this could become a dog and pony show and all those with her just want to be there to serve their country.

 

[DA SWO]

Somehow I don't think she's the brightest bulb and is being set up. We'll see how this plays out. Like I posted with Ranger School, at some point the cadre will talk and this will be no different. The outcome may be no different either.

They can send her to ft hoodlum.
Not the brightest bulb, LOL, she's coming out of Louisiana.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

If one didn't know better, one might think that her quotes sound like lines her recruiter would feed any recruit (s)he was trying to put into an infantry spot.

HER QUOTE: " she'd planned to enter the military police ranks, "but infantry is similar, and they are more on the front lines, like law enforcement here, and I said that's what I want to do."
What I think her recruiter told her: "Hey, you've already been a cop. Infantry is the same thing, out there on the front lines, enforcing the the laws, pretty much like you do here!"


HER QUOTE: "I have served the front lines in my hometown ... and now I am going to serve the front lines for my country,” Barnett said in the release. “I want to deploy, see action, and I definitely want to go to Airborne school.”
What I think her recruiter told her: "You are going to get to deploy, see some action and for sure you can go to Airborne! - "

I appreciate this young lady's willingness to serve, but she seems awful naive about what she is getting herself into.

HER QUOTE: "Now that I've enlisted, I'm going fishing with my pa"
What her recruiter likely said: Holy shit! I can't wait to tell the guys I just signed the first chick into the infantry.

Army enlists first female infantry recruit

 

[Grunt]

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if her recruiter may be a little "eager" to be the first to sign up a female grunt.

Maybe that's just my normal skepticism!

 

[AWP]

Not the brightest bulb, LOL, she's coming out of Louisiana.

Mississippi with more water....

I have this image of her recruiter spraying silver paint in his mouth and screaming "WITNESS ME" as he sent her paperwork up the chain. Former police officer, slight of frame, "MP is like infantry", not unattractive....her recruiter must have thought a winning lottery ticket dropped into his/ her lap. If she makes it (what are the odds she fails?) he/ she looks like a god for finding the right woman. If she fails the recruiter can mumble some platitudes and then sell her out behind her back and distance himself from the stench.

Mediocre.

 

[Gunz]

How can she fail? This is the first test of the administration's gender neutral combat arms policy with regard to infantry. Apply pressure where needed with extreme prejudice.

The only way she fails IMV is if she can't hack the course and the administration lets her fail as proof to the naysayers the standards have not been lowered...even if they have been.