Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

[ThunderHorse]

Well, in the Air Force's defense HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH no. Just kidding.

Isn't ya'll's social rank based on your handicap?

 

[RackMaster]

Isn't ya'll's social rank based on your handicap?

Physical or mental?

 

[GOTWA]

One "racist" thing to mention about the vast number of Indian IT folks I've run across: they have "paper certs."

What are those? Go to a brain dump website and memorize the test answers. Yes, the entire tests are online. Memorize the answers, take the test, you've learned nothing but have the cert. Another method I've seen is to go to places where people take the test for you. This is all over the place in India and the Middle East, way to easy for this to happen. Pony up the bucks and let another do the work. You have the cert but learned nothing.

I also saw a lot of people of all nationalities and groups do the same, including US contractors when I was overseas.

The bottom line though, is not only will they work for less, they also look better on paper because of the certs. That gives the hiring company some legitimacy if questioned because the certs make the incumbent "less qualified" if they aren't stacking Microsoft, Cisco, CompTIA, etc. on their resume like the H1B holder.

Ever been to Ashburn, VA...where 75% of the worlds data flows through?

 

[Gunz]

Isn't ya'll's social rank based on your handicap?

I always aspired to the Air Force O-Club golf caddy MOS.

 

[GOTWA]

As an Army guy, I even accept that a Marine has infinitely more responsibility in the "junior" grades. An E4 infantry TL, IMO, has more influence and knowledge than a lot of E6s in the Army I served under.

 

[The Quartermaster]

My dentist's father who sometimes fills in for her, was a SP5 in Vietnam. I would have loved to have been a SP5 and a SP6 as a quartermaster. Change it SGT and SSG if in SPO or for a warehouse gig.

I think SP5 should return IMO.

 

[Topkick]

As an Army guy, I even accept that a Marine has infinitely more responsibly in the "junior" grades. An E4 infantry TL, IMO, has more influence and knowledge than a lot of E6s in the Army I served under.

Maybe in CS or CSS, but in Army combat arms units, SSG's run the show. There is a lot more to being a squad leader vs.TL.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Maybe in CS or CSS, but in Army combat arms units, SSG's run the show. There is a lot more to being a squad leader vs.TL.

I was only an 11B for a short time until reclassing, but this was very true where I was at.

 

[Muppet]

My dentist's father who sometimes fills in for her, was a SP5 in Vietnam. I would have loved to have been a SP5 and a SP6 as a quartermaster. Change it SGT and SSG if in SPO or for a warehouse gig.

I think SP5 should return IMO.

My pops was a Sp/5 as a line medic in Nam but when he wanted DS school, he had to switch to hard E5. There were no Sp/5 DS.

 

[Topkick]

I was only an 11B for a short time until reclassing, but this was very true where I was at.

I served in mostly Armor and Infantry units and most E6's were studs, or at least competent at leading and maneuvering multiple teams. But I can certainly see how some REMF SSG could be less stellar than a Marine E4. Mileage may very.

 

[The Quartermaster]

I served in mostly Armor and Infantry units and most E6's were studs, or at least competent at leading and maneuvering multiple teams. But I can certainly see how some REMF SSG could be less stellar than a Marine E4. Mileage may very.

That's why I am in agreement and why not everyone between E-5 and R-6 needs to automatically be an NCO in the technical MOS's unless the slot is an actual leadership position.

They've done it with E-4 with SPC and CPL's and it actually works. Not everyone needs or has to be a CPL at E-4. Having a stupid high points system for promotions in certain technical MOS's doesn't ensure quality over quantity, it just removes quality hitting an RCP and some useless DEI getting hooked up to be promoted to a job that they should have never been able to to get to.


Show me the NCOER's and their ERB's. If I see a slick uniformed and no tabbed or patched NCO of another race and gender, lol, NO you didn't earn it over a constantly deployed at RCP E-4 with wings, patches, tabs, etc. That's the Effing problem. Anyone want to argue that? Then answer me this, why is training to time and not to standard and check the block classes of utter BS taken over SGT's Time? Anyone? I will wait.

 

[Kraut783]

You'll be waiting a long time.....

 

[amlove21]

Isn't ya'll's social rank based on your handicap?

I don’t claim them. It’s basically a mix of DEI intersectionality and absence of a gag reflex at this point.

 

[AWP]

I don’t claim them. It’s basically a mix of DEI intersectionality and absence of a gag reflex at this point.

There's a 7-level vs 9-level joke in here...

 

[Muppet]

Fuck! Lol

 

[Gunz]

I don’t claim them. It’s basically a mix of DEI intersectionality and absence of a gag reflex at this point.

There's a 7-level vs 9-level joke in here...

I don't understand anything either of you say when I'm sober.

 

[Teufel]

Maybe in CS or CSS, but in Army combat arms units, SSG's run the show. There is a lot more to being a squad leader vs.TL.

All my squad leaders in the infantry were Corporals or Lance Corporals. Sergeant squad leaders were rare. It wouldn’t surprise me if the average Army SSG and Marine Sgt have similar time in service.

 

[Topkick]

All my squad leaders in the infantry were Corporals or Lance Corporals. Sergeant squad leaders were rare. It wouldn’t surprise me if the average Army SSG and Marine Sgt have similar time in service.

Thats interesting, sir. The OP compared Marine E4 team leaders to Army E6's. Nearly all of my SSG's in CA units were competent squad leaders (and sometimes PSGs), so I can't agree with that generalization. But experience level is a game changer, regardless of the amount of chevrons or branch.

 

[Topkick]

As a 21-year old E4 combat vet I had a dozen Marines and three guns under me at Fox 2/6 Weapons. In Vietnam, the CAP actual was usually an E5, the bravo was an E4, and as a L/Cpl with months in the bush, I led some KTs and combat patrols. When I joined the NC ANG, E-4s were emptying the trash cans.

Not trying to make this a dick measuring conversation or take anything from young Marines, but by the time I pinned on E7, I already had two years as a Platoon Sergeant responsible for 30 soldiers, 6 BFV's, and a second lieutenant. This is not the norm but also not all that uncommon. I don't even think it's a relevant comparison. There will different scenario's, especially in combat, so situations will very.

 

[AWP]

Whatever the rank, it seems that all systems are working rather well.

Except the Air Force. The AF develops leaders as well as Taco Bell and tequila generate constipation.