Your 2024 relieved Naval Commander Thread

Totentanz said:
There's one part that jumps out to me.

(emphasis mine)

When I left the Army I started working for a large DoD contractor (not ManTech) while on terminal leave. There were a few (not many) hoops I had to jump through for their legal department in order to do so. One of those not-many-things was that under NO circumstances was I to represent them to a DoD entity until my terminal leave expired. Every echelon of management I interacted with was aware of the situation and to the best of my memory all of them made mention of it during my first few weeks there. I'm not a lawyer, I didn't deep-dive into the legal aspects and I'm not going to delineate where the laws stop and their corporate policy begins -- I trusted their interpretation of the ethics laws. I worked at their offsite location while on terminal leave and I walked into the USAF office I was supporting the morning after my leave ended.

This part of the following paragraph:

makes me think that's likely what got him in trouble.
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I missed that part.
I've seen Senior Officers "double dip" (O-6 on terminal leave who started his SES-1 job while on terminal leave.) but that is probably what kills him. I will check with my expert.
 
AWP said:
Not being a Marine...how do you not have a FITREP in 3-4 years and don't bring that up at some point? Maybe he did, it is an article that will not know or present some facts, but that sounds odd.

Working as a contractor while on terminal leave is fairly common, but his situation sounds different.

I'm not getting the pitchforks ready or a cask of tar and a feather pillow, but I don't understand those aspects. As presented in the article, it doesn't make sense. That said, given the JAG shenanigans of late, I hope this man receives a fair trial. Sadly, those seem to be in short supply for high profile cases.
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He was a CWO5 so the fitreps are kind of pointless at that point. Yes he is supposed to still do them but he's a CWO5 and they are known for being on their own program. Not usually this OFP though. I'm surprised they even found him to charge him. I bet he walks. First of all, it seems that the Marine Corps didn't give him a straightforward billet assignment and clear chain of command. I would point to the 4 years of missing fitreps as evidence that no one gave a shit about what I was doing. Hard to hold him accountable for doing his job when he has no billet description. Second, I think I read somewhere that he asked for a legal review. I bet it doesn't fully excuse what he did working for a contractor while on terminal leave but it will still help his case. Finally, this seems to touch a lot of General Officers and senior leaders who should have known better. I suspect this will quietly go away at some point. He will have to recite the Marines Hymn ten times and do one hundred ooh-rahs and be on his way. Likely right back to the same office getting twice the pay as a contractor.
 
We can add another name to this thread soon.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/21/politics/us-fighter-jet-shot-down-red-sea/index.html

Two US Navy pilots ejected safely after their fighter jet was shot down over the Red Sea on Saturday in an apparent friendly fire incident, US Central Command said in a statement.

The pilots were recovered, and one of the crew members sustained minor injuries, according to initial assessments.

The aircraft, an F/A-18, was operating from the USS Harry S. Truman when it was “mistakenly fired” upon by the USS Gettysburg, CENTCOM said. The USS Gettysburg, a Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser, is part of the Truman carrier strike group, which entered the waters of the Middle East one week ago.
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DA SWO said:
Both crewmembers will have long term back issues now.
I wonder if the mode III wasn't loaded properly, or it failed.
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Plus 4 and maybe 5. In CENTCOM, if one of our radar sites had an inop Mode 4, that site was automatically PMC and briefed to the CAOC. They were implementing Mode 5 when I left in 2021.

My money's on a radar drill and some OS pushed a button they shouldn't have. The Weapons O and CO should start updating their resumes for post-Navy employment.
 
AWP said:
Plus 4 and maybe 5. In CENTCOM, if one of our radar sites had an inop Mode 4, that site was automatically PMC and briefed to the CAOC. They were implementing Mode 5 when I left in 2021.

My money's on a radar drill and some OS pushed a button they shouldn't have. The Weapons O and CO should start updating their resumes for post-Navy employment.
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Some reports say they were engaging Houthi drones as the strikers were returning.
They could have fired at a drone only to have the missile go after the bigger target.
 
Teufel said:
He will have to recite the Marines Hymn ten times and do one hundred ooh-rahs and be on his way
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Pretty close, sir!

Marine gunner has AWOL charges tossed, gets reprimand for statements

A senior Marine Corps weapons expert who had a Navy Cross recipient and retired major general testify as character witnesses left his court-martial Friday night with a reprimand.

My favorite part:

Another unconventional moment took place during a recess period in the courtroom, when LaRose’s Marine Corps attorney, August Dannenmaier, had the gunner preside over his promotion to the rank of captain.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
Pretty close, sir!

Marine gunner has AWOL charges tossed, gets reprimand for statements

A senior Marine Corps weapons expert who had a Navy Cross recipient and retired major general testify as character witnesses left his court-martial Friday night with a reprimand.

My favorite part:

Another unconventional moment took place during a recess period in the courtroom, when LaRose’s Marine Corps attorney, August Dannenmaier, had the gunner preside over his promotion to the rank of captain.
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1. Still a felony conviction.
2. The charge around his using a .mil email for contractor work will stick.
3. He knows better.
 
DA SWO said:
Some reports say they were engaging Houthi drones as the strikers were returning.
They could have fired at a drone only to have the missile go after the bigger target.
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The events were separated by time. There were no hostiles in the air at the time. It's not a great situation. People are being very tight lipped about it while the investigation is underway.
 
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