2016 Presidential Race

[racing_kitty]

But if you try sometimes, you get what you need...

Well played.

 

[DocIllinois]

But if you try sometimes, you get what you need...

So true. The Democratic party needed a Donnie Trump to supply them the win - done!

Outstanding.

 

[TLDR20]

I didn't see this posted anywhere here. For people who honestly believe Trump is a conservative, what conservative values does he truly represent?

Trump’s rise reflects American conservatism’s decay

 

[RackMaster]

I didn't see this posted anywhere here. For people who honestly believe Trump is a conservative, what conservative values does he truly represent?

Trump’s rise reflects American conservatism’s decay

I consider him centre right or fiscal conservative.

 

[TLDR20]

I consider him centre right or fiscal conservative.

You aren't an American.

Our definition of conservative is very different.

I also should have clarified to people voting for him.

 

[Devildoc]

More fraud issues.....

BREAKING: Mass Voter Fraud Discovered in Illinois

 

[TLDR20]

Six Reasons Conservatives Should Not Vote for Donald Trump

Sums up my feelings on trump pretty well.

More fraud issues.....

BREAKING: Mass Voter Fraud Discovered in Illinois

Mass voter fraud? 3 cases? Lol.

Is that the best source you could find? You know a source is legit when it mentions "union thugs and their democrat masters." Don't post shit like that as a source again.

 

[DocIllinois]

More fraud issues.....

BREAKING: Mass Voter Fraud Discovered in Illinois

Reports of any political fraud in Illinois are as surprising as reports of lawsuits in Texas.

 

[Rapid]

Deplorable VP on Twitter

lol

 

[Devildoc]

Mass voter fraud? 3 cases? Lol.

Is that the best source you could find? You know a source is legit when it mentions "union thugs and their democrat masters." Don't post shit like that as a source again.

No, not the best source. And no, I wouldn't call it "mass," either, but I am not going to change the headline. But irrespective of the editorializing, if the facts are true, the facts are true.

Maybe this is better. It is sourced better.

Feds, state officials look into Kankakee voter fraud allegations

 

[TLDR20]

No, not the best source. And no, I wouldn't call it "mass," either, but I am not going to change the headline. But irrespective of the editorializing, if the facts are true, the facts are true.

Maybe this is better. It is sourced better.

Feds, state officials look into Kankakee voter fraud allegations

In the words of our Spartan forefathers, "if".

 

[Devildoc]

In the words of our Spartan forefathers, "if".

Yes, the Chicago paper is more balanced. Lot of shit-slinging between the parties there, "he said-she said". Not am I naïve enough to know Republicans don't engage in fraud as well. But Chicago does seem to take it to an art form.

 

[DocIllinois]

Yes, the Chicago paper is more balanced. Lot of shit-slinging between the parties there, "he said-she said". Not am I naïve enough to know Republicans don't engage in fraud as well. But Chicago does seem to take it to an art form.

Seem to??

Should you ever make a trek to the Windy City, we'll visit a couple of smoke filled rooms.

 

[Devildoc]

Seem to??

Should you ever make a trek to the Windy City, we'll visit a couple of smoke filled rooms.

As my wife points out, very often, I am often unaware of my own prejudices and my strong opinions. I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt and consider all sides.

 

[Red Flag 1]

Mass voter fraud? 3 cases? Lol.

Is that the best source you could find? You know a source is legit when it mentions "union thugs and their democrat masters." Don't post shit like that as a source again.

It's just my opinion, but 3 is probably just a scratch on the surface.

The number should be ZERO, in every voting precinct; nation wide.

 

[TLDR20]

It's just my opinion, but 3 is probably just a scratch on the surface.

The number should be ZERO, in every voting precinct; nation wide.

Yeah that would be great. We don't live in a fantasy world though. I would also think there should be zero murders, zero theft, high quality water in every American city to go with great public education. Voter fraud is so small scale in America it is amazing.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Well we don't always get what we want.

You don't need his tax returns. Because the IRS always gets their piece.

 

[Brill]

Voter fraud is so small scale in America it is amazing.

Are we actively looking for it though? Serious question and not mocking your 4 am postings.

 

[Devildoc]

Yeah that would be great. We don't live in a fantasy world though. I would also think there should be zero murders, zero theft, high quality water in every American city to go with great public education. Voter fraud is so small scale in America it is amazing.

Don't you find it ironic, though, that the democrats are all for gun laws, water regulatory laws, more teachers....but don't want laws that could curb voter fraud?

Conversely, the republicans want all those other things to be deregulated to a point but want tighter voter laws to reduce fraud.

 

[TLDR20]

Don't you find it ironic, though, that the democrats are all for gun laws, water regulatory laws, more teachers....but don't want laws that could curb voter fraud?

Conversely, the republicans want all those other things to be deregulated to a point but want tighter voter laws to reduce fraud.

Laws that curb voter fraud also curb voter access. You did community nursing, you know how many people would be disenfranchised by voter ID laws.

Are we actively looking for it though? Serious question and not mocking your 4 am postings.

Yeah we do. Do you think that it is so large scale that it affects national elections? If it is so wide scale (and seemingly from posts here only perpetuated by liberal union loving democrats) how do we ha e such balance? Is it easier to believe that the vote is rigged rather than the demographics of our nation are leading to a more liberal society?