Covid-19

[amlove21]

Probably.

I just can’t wrap my brain around the concept of an organized “one world order” with a dozen secret leaders sitting around a virtual conference table, pulling all of the strings, moving us to a common goal.

If I believe that, that I am forcing myself to acknowledge the possibility of other absurd conspiracies, starting with the US Government’s knowledge and/or participation in 9/11.

I just can’t go to those places; so instead I fall back on the belief that sometimes bad things happen and in too many cases, incompetence and pride overrule common sense and rationality.

Maybe I am one of the sheep, that I am so quick to accuse others of being.

I think there is a lot of middle ground between a formalized Deep State and no conspiracies at all. A lot. I also don't think you're a sheep.

We know (or at least the govt has admitted as much) that there have been verified false flags, government funded projects on mind control, clandestine operations within our borders... I guess I am the other side of the same coin we occupy; I look at the same facts that you do, and I tend to believe that yes, bad things happen and people are incompetent. However...

I take it a step further than you do; not only do I believe that people are incompetent and easily led/manipulated, I also believe that there are true malicious actors willing, able and capable of doing the things the conspiracies allege, and some of those mal actors occupy influential parts of the government and business/industry writ large.

So, when I look at the last two years, it's nearly impossible for me to ignore the data points that had nothing to do with science, protection of the American people, or anything to do with health at all and EVERYTHING to do with controlling populations using "emergencies".

Either way, I really appreciate you explaining that for me.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Some really smart (and experienced) people in this thread discussing some really difficult concepts to believe.

I appreciate the overall tone and that most here are doing so with limited rhetoric.

A lot to think about and consider.

 

[RackMaster]

This isn't the WEF conspiracy but as an entity it had existed for over 50 year's. It's sole purpose is to influence policy in education, corporate governance, governments at all levels and around the world to reach the exact same end state. That is literally their reason for existence.

Now decades of influence has reached a tipping point and the pandemic was an opportunity to expedite their end state. See The Great Reset.

Now throw in mindless bureaucracies that follow the words of the parties that keep them fat, left leaning typically. Same parties that tend to attend WEF meetings, which are in person and not virtual.

So we have meetings of world leader's and influential people, to change policy to reach some socialist utopia. Sounds pretty legitimate to me.

 

[amlove21]

This isn't the WEF conspiracy but as an entity it had existed for over 50 year's. It's sole purpose is to influence policy in education, corporate governance, governments at all levels and around the world to reach the exact same end state. That is literally their reason for existence.

Now decades of influence has reached a tipping point and the pandemic was an opportunity to expedite their end state. See The Great Reset.

Now throw in mindless bureaucracies that follow the words of the parties that keep them fat, left leaning typically. Same parties that tend to attend WEF meetings, which are in person and not virtual.

So we have meetings of world leader's and influential people, to change policy to reach some socialist utopia. Sounds pretty legitimate to me.

And it's just as easy as that. All you need is a tech guy or two for promotion (Mark, Jack), a complicit "4th pillar", and a divided population more involved with their ego and id than logic and reason and POOF!

You get locked down in your house to make sure you don't kill grandma.

 

[Muppet]

This isn't the WEF conspiracy but as an entity it had existed for over 50 year's. It's sole purpose is to influence policy in education, corporate governance, governments at all levels and around the world to reach the exact same end state. That is literally their reason for existence.

Now decades of influence has reached a tipping point and the pandemic was an opportunity to expedite their end state. See The Great Reset.

Now throw in mindless bureaucracies that follow the words of the parties that keep them fat, left leaning typically. Same parties that tend to attend WEF meetings, which are in person and not virtual.

So we have meetings of world leader's and influential people, to change policy to reach some socialist utopia. Sounds pretty legitimate to me.

Add in the Bilderberg Group. Folks like us are considered extremists because we don't buy the hype.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I refuse to believe that to be completely true.


Especially this part:




Do I believe that the government tries too hard to “protect us from ourselves“? Yes, absolutely.

Do I believe that the government is preparing and testing us to be part of the grand world conspiracy? Nope.

Most governments and politicians can barely function and stay out of their own way, much less cooperate with each other to create a one world government.

We let Fauci destroy millions of lives. If that is because of incompetence, throw the bastards in jail. But alas there will be no accountability and we'll have a generation of people completely effed.

 

[AWP]

*The Cuomo family has entered the chat

 

[RackMaster]

*The Castro/Trudeau family has entered the chat.

 

[amlove21]

*The Castro/Trudeau family has entered the chat.

It's the Castro family- mom's lil cuban vacation gave us all the gift that keeps on giving.

In other news- myocarditis in kids?! That's not a thing. Certainly no reason to make an animated video normalizing a condition that has legit never presented itself in any real way in the history of mankind.

CDC walks back COVID guidance again, finds lasting post-vaccine heart problems in young adults

 

[RackMaster]

Myocarditis is the number 1 reason my boy never got a single shot. They can go fuck themselves. He got over covid by coughing 3 times, the sniffles for a day and a good night sleep. I'm not putting him a risk of life altering side effects to his heart. The mental gymnastics done over these vaccines hurts my fucking melon.

 

[amlove21]

Myocarditis is the number 1 reason my boy never got a single shot. They can go fuck themselves. He got over covid by coughing 3 times, the sniffles for a day and a good night sleep. I'm not putting him a risk of life altering side effects to his heart. The mental gymnastics done over these vaccines hurts my fucking melon.

Same with my boy. The second he got completely asymptomatic "covid", any discussion of the vaccine was off the table. That was 2021.

 

[Blizzard]

Yet, we still have this...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1574851242291040262

 

[Topkick]

Yet, we still have this...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1574851242291040262

I'm certainly no fan of the current President, or vaccines, but with President Trump so many things were purposely presented out of context that I've learned never to take the first thing I hear seriously. This snippet was presented out of context by the OP. But there is a story here. This administration is still trying to sell you a lemon.


Fact check: Biden comment on COVID-19 vaccines and hurricanes misconstrued

 

[Blizzard]

I'm certainly no fan of the current President, or vaccines, but with President Trump so many things were purposely presented out of context that I've learned never to take the first thing I hear seriously. This snippet was presented out of context by the OP. But there is a story here. This administration is still trying to sell you a lemon.


Fact check: Biden comment on COVID-19 vaccines and hurricanes misconstrued

I don’t think the video was presented out of context - at least not the clip I posted. No one suggested the vaccine prevents hurricanes - that's absurd. It's simply assine to discuss Covid vaccines at all in the context of any natural disaster.

 

[Topkick]

I don’t think the video was presented out of context - at least not the clip I posted. No one suggested the vaccine prevents hurricanes - that's absurd. It's simply assine to discuss Covid vaccines at all in the context of any natural disaster.

Maybe you're right but absurd is pretty normal these days. Judging by some of the comments it was taken out of context.
I agree with you that it was ridiculous timing.

 

[Polar Bear]

The Covid vaccine will help you survive natural disasters.

 

[AWP]

It is dumb shit like the president's quote(s) above that have people thinking this is part of some bigger ploy to control the masses, new world order, population control, great resets and the like.

I find conspiracy theories tend to have something like 15-20 percent fact and a whole bunch of bullshit which is why they gain traction. Problem...what's a fact and what's bullshit?

Then, you take "things" like MKULTRA, the Tuskegee Experiment, atomic testing on troops, the Gulf of Tonkin, the crack and cocaine epidemic in the US being supported by the CIA...there are a few cases I guess:
Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

We won't even touch on how the Patriot Act has killed the 4th Amendment.

So, yeah, people are right to distrust their government. Stop buying into the cult of personality, folks.

The Covid vaccine will help you survive natural disasters.

Natural disasters will help me survive COVID.

 

[Muppet]

It is dumb shit like the president's quote(s) above that have people thinking this is part of some bigger ploy to control the masses, new world order, population control, great resets and the like.

I find conspiracy theories tend to have something like 15-20 percent fact and a whole bunch of bullshit which is why they gain traction. Problem...what's a fact and what's bullshit?

Then, you take "things" like MKULTRA, the Tuskegee Experiment, atomic testing on troops, the Gulf of Tonkin, the crack and cocaine epidemic in the US being supported by the CIA...there are a few cases I guess:
Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

We won't even touch on how the Patriot Act has killed the 4th Amendment.

So, yeah, people are right to distrust their government. Stop buying into the cult of personality, folks.



Natural disasters will help me survive COVID.

 

[Muppet]

So, Maria and I make it out for dinner at Carrabas (Italian) in our AO.

Notice the plexiglass on the booths. Many restaurants do this. No masks in places, though, panic Karen's are still double masking.

My beef? It's like the fucking useless masks. Walk into a place, to the table, past SITTING patrons, to your table, take mask off. Get up, put mask on.

So, did covid learn to stay over 5/6 feet up when you're standing? Did covid learn to not affect you when you're seated? Does covid know not to jump over plexiglass? Did covid affect bars but not restaurants? Did covid affect mom and pop stores but not big box stores?

It's all a fucking joke. Fucking theatrics for the idiot masses.

At least my PCP doc made masks optional at his office, I'm surprised.

 

[RackMaster]

All that shit is gone here now.