The list that Amlove posted is filled with people in their 60’s. The most recent 6 he posted 3/6 were over 60 and one got nuked in the chest.
So you know what the long term effects of a novel disease are, but not what the long term effects of the vaccine are, right? Or you know what the vaccine does, but also know the disease doesn’t cause problems? Just so we are on the same page
So we're on the same page. Neither of us are novel disease experts. We don't know the long term effects of this disease, although in the professional athlete population and service member population we are starting to see something.
We definitely don't know what the vaccine actually does long term to the body. Short term? Plenty of studies linked in this thread that discuss how mRNA vaccinated individuals became super spreaders.
To reiterate. So we're on the same page. NO ONE knows the long term effects of this disease, what we do know is the shots didn't work one bit. (Well they may have, but more in the way I said they would and not the way the medical orthodoxy, that cancelled people who asked questions, would work.)
We don't know the long term effects of the shots but I can tell you I sure as shit wasn't pumping mRNA into my body since there was going to no way to turn the damn thing off. (Can't wait for the shot that pFizer tells the medical orthodoxy to peddle to us that will turn the mRNA off, oh and I bet for every shot you got you'll need an equal number because science)
What we have learned from this whole thing is that the experts were not experts, that most of the government experts were wrong, and that most of the steps they forced upon us were also wrong.
I'm not from New Hampshire, but I love their state motto. Live Free or Die. Trying to live free. I did live in Virginia and that state motto? Sic Semper Tyrannus. And Who is it that needs to be deposed? Fauci, Pfizer, Moderna, Trump, Biden, Newsom, and all the other shitheads that lied in the process.
But like I said, so we're on the same page. No one knows anything about this (or rather I know a shit ton and I know we responded very poorly).
Are the same? Im not sure. I don’t think they are very related. I think there is overlap, but im not sure. I would hope that most people are sure of the efficacy of commonly administered vaccinations. However the recent uptick in vaccine preventable diseases tells me that vaccine hesitancy is at an all time high, and that sucks. It will be fun when kids start getting polio again.
But then again, people are questioning germ theory and if viruses are real in this thread so I don’t know.
Who in the thread is questioning germ theory other than Rabbit?
In regards to Polio, we're talking about an immunization that is proven to work that has almost 100 years of data.
For seasonal diseases, which is what COVID is now. (Thanks China and your labs) We need to compare this to the flu and really nothing else. But hey I remember the H1N1 very well and we didn't shut down the world for that.
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Last point for this post to make. Some of us, well we deal with a specific population. As part of my role in 2021 to get our season working was coordinating testing with our contracted lab. We had 12 teams in 12 different cities + HQ staff and Contractors spread all across the country. Vast majority of the population in the testing cohort for us are professional athletes ages 21-39. Monitoring results was pretty intense and generally led me to having to call a GM or a Coach to do contact tracing and isolation.
What we learned then is what I learned during lockdown. That you could be in a tiny room with someone who is highly contagious, breath the same air for hours, and never get infected. I said back then before the board was put on vacation: "Virus gonna virus". Saying the same thing. Now we did not have the money that the NFL, NBA, MLB had to spend on contact tracing bracelets, but what we learned from them (and all the countries that did the process in a regressive manner) is that contact tracing was pretty worthless.
I'm not my org's medical director either, but I sent every study that was focused on professional athletes and every protocol update from the NFL to the headshed. Because if the NFL wasn't doing it, we shouldn't be doing it. Cost benefit analysis. But I'm about as well read on COVID as any person can be that wasn't in the lab creating it. I'm not a medical professional, but most folks in the medical profession saying they know better is just not true based on the last three years. They made a guess, a bad one based on their biases.
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A shitty governor in New York who was ousted for a sexual assault claim caused the deaths of thousands of elderly as he forced old folks homes to intake infected individuals. Quarantine procedures for old folks homes are insane, but he compelled private facilities to break their own policies and procedures. And he will never be held to account.
So like with anything: if you're obese, over 70, or smoke a pack a day, you're likely gonna die from a viral infection if you're immune system is compromised. Tell me something I didn't know prior to 2005 please.
