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Probably commotio cor… oh wait. Flag football. For girls.
16-year-old student at Las Vegas school dies after ‘medical emergency’ during sports event
16-year-old student at Las Vegas school dies after ‘medical emergency’ during sports event
I wonder if there are more medical incidents involving young athletes now, or if we're more attuned to them over COVID.
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But there is this: "A family member told FOX5 that Hughes was was playing flag football and was having chest problems. The girl went to the sidelines to take a break when she collapsed."
No cause-effect. This is representative of how the other athletes have died.
I'm not making a case for cause-effect. I am highlighting the uptick in healthy, young adults having heart attacks. It's my hope that we can highlight enough of these stories so that maybe we can get enough people that actually care about the issue to look at it and get to causation. Seems to be plenty of correlation. I'd wager there is gonna be more.
I can tell you (with pretty good reliability, as this was a 1-degreee separation from some of my friends in Vegas) that this young lady was an active, athletic person without significant Med history to indicate any reason why she'd code playing sports.
This has been an overall interesting thing to explore for all things (not just COVID) in the world we live in- "are all these things happening more, or are we just made more aware of them because of our globally connected access to information."
I don't know what that answer is, so I think you have to compile a lot of personal experience and anecdotal information. This is gonna make the "WhErE iS tHe StUdY I ApPrOvE oF" crowd upset, but considering big tech is censoring the information anyway, it's what we have.
I have been a paramedic for 20+ years, and a basic before that. I have had friends in the medical community (civilian side specifically) for that long, and have a pretty good reach. "Kid stories", or stories that are super distinct get passed around pretty well- and in 2 decades, I can count on 1 hand the number of times a kid/teenager died from a heart attack or "natural causes". 17 year olds don't die in their sleep; healthy 27 year old special operators don't have strokes. I can't think of a time adults died of "natural causes" at 37, either.
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Honest question...who has better hair....?
I’m more of a hard part and low fade guy myself. I stay away from quaffing or anything too effete.
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Yeah we are good. I have thick enough skin to not be too offended by anything anyone says on the inter webs
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The only reason I brought it up as I did was in context to how you starting the post remarking on CC, that's all. Merely pointing out the difference between Hamlin and how he went down, and this young lady.
I agree with your (and others) gestalt about the link between the vaccine and early death specific to athletes. In that respect there is no argument, and I agree. It appears how she 'went down' is similar to many other athletes.
Edited to add, I apologize if I am not as articulate as I could be; I am a couple bourbons in.
Bro no drama here. Again, I really think a lot of this stuff (covid, social media, whatever) broke how we communicate on stuff.
No one is mad at anyone here. People have contentious conversations. You can be mad and call each other a dick here and there (remember when sometimes you just had to punch your friend in the mouth and then you walked home together and nothing was wrong?).
Something happened where 1- people get offended on behalf of other people (who aren’t actually mad about the issue) and 2- we can’t just be ok with disagreement unless we make it into some earth shattering assault on our very ego and ID. It’s weird.
Anyway, rant over.
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So this gets interesting:
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overview-20221231.pdf
So, the data shows that if you're fully boosted you go to the ICU more often...but for 2023 the government of NSW just isn't going to care so we won't really be able to plot this shit back at all.
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overview-20221231.pdf
So, the data shows that if you're fully boosted you go to the ICU more often...but for 2023 the government of NSW just isn't going to care so we won't really be able to plot this shit back at all.
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Only responding to this because it’s obvious I was the issue here: wasn’t my place to make a correction on the forum, and lesson learned from that. Want to emphasize that Amlove and I talked on the side and squashed any minor disagreement we had. These are just internet points, they don’t count for anything in real life anyways.
Back to the regularly scheduled show, sorry for the derailment.
Hey man that wasn’t a shot at you. It was an overhead observation, that’s all. It’s just a weird thing that’s happening in all society (see: the Rise of Karen).
I hate all of humanity.
Lol ok, well that’s why we all like you so you get a pass.
That is quite a lot of cardiac events right? The aortic dissection is obviously not included in my point that there are more people on this short list we saw in entire YEARS before 2020/2021.
Devildoc
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And Hamlin is an outlier as well.
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Hey now, Fauci said one COVID death was too many. Well, would say one vaccine death is too many and they seem to be mounting.
This line of reasoning has been a tough but to crack. Quite literally throwing the baby out with the bath water.
“Well these two probably aren’t related.”
Uh- ok? How about the other 5 they might be? What if half of those get 100% proven to be vaccine related?? Ok Mike Leach was old- but that leaves 4 cardiac affect/sudden deaths of world class athletes and cardiac issues. When in history has that ever happened? Ever?
I'm not sure it's that interesting, only about 20% of the population have had their 4th dose, and they are mostly in the 70+ age bracket. The demographic most likely to need an ICU visit regardless of vaccination status.
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