"Fit, Not Fat:" making the US military's standards high again

[Marauder06]

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from the article:

On his own X account, Hegseth wrote: "Our troops will be fit — not fat. Our troops will look sharp — not sloppy. We seek only quality — not quotas. BOTTOM LINE: Our Department of Defense will make standards HIGH & GREAT again — across the entire force."

I mean, I'm all for that, but with the rest of America so fat or criminal or sad or whatever, how are we going to maintain the force we need?

 

[Topkick]

MSN

from the article:

On his own X account, Hegseth wrote: "Our troops will be fit — not fat. Our troops will look sharp — not sloppy. We seek only quality — not quotas. BOTTOM LINE: Our Department of Defense will make standards HIGH & GREAT again — across the entire force."

I mean, I'm all for that, but with the rest of America so fat or criminal or sad or whatever, how are we going to maintain the force we need?

Dewey Oxburger joined because he heard the Army had a great weightloss program, just saying..

 

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MSN

from the article:

On his own X account, Hegseth wrote: "Our troops will be fit — not fat. Our troops will look sharp — not sloppy. We seek only quality — not quotas. BOTTOM LINE: Our Department of Defense will make standards HIGH & GREAT again — across the entire force."

I mean, I'm all for that, but with the rest of America so fat or criminal or sad or whatever, how are we going to maintain the force we need?

The memo I saw directed a review back to 2015. That's around when women in combat arms and religious beard waivers (he specifically mentioned beards in the memo) became a thing. I imagine both of those will be on the chopping block. Interested in how that'll work for the women already in those roles?

Otherwise, I'll get ready for the 5th(6th? 7th) version of the ACFT. Hopefully we keep it; it's a much better test than the APFT.

 

[Topkick]

Otherwise, I'll get ready for the 5th(6th? 7th) version of the ACFT. Hopefully we keep it; it's a much better test than the APFT.

Just hope the uniform doesn't change again. I LOVE the pinks and greens. Wish I had them in my time.

 

[SOSTCRNA]

The memo I saw directed a review back to 2015. That's around when women in combat arms and religious beard waivers (he specifically mentioned beards in the memo) became a thing. I imagine both of those will be on the chopping block. Interested in how that'll work for the women already in those roles?

Otherwise, I'll get ready for the 5th(6th? 7th) version of the ACFT. Hopefully we keep it; it's a much better test than the APFT.

How long does it take your unit to get through the ACFT. Looks like a good test but time consuming

 

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How long does it take your unit to get through the ACFT. Looks like a good test but time consuming

When the units actually plan it out, properly lay out lanes beforehand, designate graders, and let myself and the other handful of NCOs actually lay out lanes beforehand?

60-70 minutes from warm-up to end of the two mile for a company. Command almost never plans for it correctly, so it's closer to 90-120 minutes for us. 2 hours is the max time authorized before it becomes an invalid test, and we've yet to have that happen.

Our RTI gets 150 BLC students through in less than 70 minutes on average, so that's probably a better example.

 

[SOSTCRNA]

When the units actually plan it out, properly lay out lanes beforehand, designate graders, and let myself and the other handful of NCOs actually lay out lanes beforehand?

60-70 minutes from warm-up to end of the two mile for a company. Command almost never plans for it correctly, so it's closer to 90-120 minutes for us. 2 hours is the max time authorized before it becomes an invalid test, and we've yet to have that happen.

Our RTI gets 150 BLC students through in less than 70 minutes on average, so that's probably a better example

When the units actually plan it out, properly lay out lanes beforehand, designate graders, and let myself and the other handful of NCOs actually lay out lanes beforehand?

60-70 minutes from warm-up to end of the two mile for a company. Command almost never plans for it correctly, so it's closer to 90-120 minutes for us. 2 hours is the max time authorized before it becomes an invalid test, and we've yet to have that happen.

Our RTI gets 150 BLC students through in less than 70 minutes on average, so that's probably a better example.

Not as bad as I thought, I had visions of half a day

 

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Not as bad as I thought, I had visions of half a day

So it could, depending on how many lanes of equipment you have and how many personnel you're testing.

The test is designed for 4 soldiers per grader/lane. So a company testing 150 soldiers, with 15 lanes of equipment, will need to run 3 iterations of the ACFT to test all of the troops.
Easy way to get around that is to plan out for testing a platoon a day, using NCOs/soldiers from the non-testing platoon to run it.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

Pros APFT is faster, and requires zero gear and can be done anywhere. ACFT is a better test overall.

Cons ACFT takes about twice as long, costs a bazillion times more, requires alot of planning and the scoring system changes about every year.

A soldier can train specifically for either test and look good on paper so that argument is invalid.

Anywho why is SECDEF trying to make us skinny again....doesn't he know Fatt people are hard to kidnap!