Wasn't there a mass suicide at the National Archives tomorrow?
How about that Hunter Biden laptop...
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Too early, Mrs. Clinton. Too early.
Uproar over Twitter suspending journalists. :)
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LOL, where was the outrage when Twitter suspended conservative outlets?
Hypocrites.
Oh, and FUCK THE UN.
The same Twitter that banned the sitting head of the most powerful nation in the world, who had not violated any of their rules? That Twitter?
I think the inimitable Dave Chappelle did a skit about this that sums up how I feel about the UN.
I think the inimitable Dave Chappelle did a skit about this that sums up how I feel about the UN.
Do I think it's ironic that "free speech absolutist" Elon Musk is banning journalists and accounts that hurt is feelings?
Yes.
Do I think that (under our current laws) he's allowed to do that?
Also yes.
Goose/gander and all that.
I care less about Twitter banning the Hunter story or right wing figures* than I do about the FBI requesting accounts be banned for "misinformation".
The second one is a legitimate 1st Ammendment issue.
ETA: * Not because I agree with the ethics of them banning accounts, but because they "technically" aren't doing anything under how we let companies operate.
Yes.
Do I think that (under our current laws) he's allowed to do that?
Also yes.
Goose/gander and all that.
I care less about Twitter banning the Hunter story or right wing figures* than I do about the FBI requesting accounts be banned for "misinformation".
The second one is a legitimate 1st Ammendment issue.
ETA: * Not because I agree with the ethics of them banning accounts, but because they "technically" aren't doing anything under how we let companies operate.
Wait, it was okay for Twitter to ban people with whom the staff disagreed BEFORE Musk bought the platform...because "misinformation?"
Doesn't sound like hypocrisy at all...
Do y'all remember when the news had to be accurate? Print? TV? Radio? Or how about message boards, old BBS shit that predates this by 20+ years? You remember when those had to be accurate? Or Wikipedia! Surely we all remember Wiki's "zero flaws" policy for articles. I know everyone who listened to Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge, etc. were so grateful for the news segments that were 100 unbiased and factual.
So imagine how over the moon I am that Twitter and social media are being held accountable for "misinformation." We had it made until Facebook, Twitter, and The Gram came along because prior to them we could trust everything in front of us. Until blue checks came along I just stared at the sun and played with my own filth.
I sure am brokenhearted by all of these Twitter changes.
Doesn't sound like hypocrisy at all...
Do y'all remember when the news had to be accurate? Print? TV? Radio? Or how about message boards, old BBS shit that predates this by 20+ years? You remember when those had to be accurate? Or Wikipedia! Surely we all remember Wiki's "zero flaws" policy for articles. I know everyone who listened to Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge, etc. were so grateful for the news segments that were 100 unbiased and factual.
So imagine how over the moon I am that Twitter and social media are being held accountable for "misinformation." We had it made until Facebook, Twitter, and The Gram came along because prior to them we could trust everything in front of us. Until blue checks came along I just stared at the sun and played with my own filth.
I sure am brokenhearted by all of these Twitter changes.
Absolutism of any time usually ends badly. Zealots for anything tend to be bad for the rest of us. I'm personally all about reasonable restrictions, including for the Second Amendment. I think I just disagree with the Left on what "reasonable" is on most things.
Of course you care less about the suppression of Biden stories or conservatives. You're a leftist, and these issues don't immediately affect you negatively. I don't mean that as a personal attack; most of us care significantly less about things that don't immediately affect us, or that support our politics or other things we care about. I know that's true about myself. But these are big issues, and if they're not addressed now, eventually all of us will be negatively affected. It reminds me of the old "first they came..." poem. I'm being suppressed today. It could be you tomorrow.
Additionally, what the big tech companies did, not only with the many crimes of the Bidens but with many other issues, is essentially make in-kind donations to the Democrat party, with what they chose to support, and what they chose to suppress on their platforms. I'm no lawyer, but this may be illegal. It is definitely illegal for them to actively collaborate with the government to do it (as you identified above). Also, they claim to be platforms, not publishers. This is an important distinction, one they've long fought to maintain because of legal technicalities.
People are definitely going to get sued over this stuff. I hope some people go to jail.
I understand your point here.
There definitely needs to be a solution to the power that these companies hold and use to influence the public.
My first concern with this story is that arms of the government are getting much more comfortable violating Constitutional rights and exercising authoritarian type power.
I think that actual Fed LEO agencies doing this is more of a priority that needs address in congress first, not that the other stuff is meaningless.
I have no tolerance for the whinging from anyone on this one. When conservatives tried to ‘build their own’, AWS nuked Parler. Now that the playing field is even getting closer to level, there’s all this clutching of pearls? Really? Grow up. It’s so transparently not about freedom of speech.
Conservatives have been discriminated against with the help of federal law enforcement. The overwhelming majority of all media is of a liberal bent, no matter what silly semantic games you want to play or what studies (funded by the liberal media) you wanna cite.
And *now* there’s real tears about Elon doing… what? Running his company? Kicking off journalists that doxxed his kid that lead to a real attack? Enforcing the terms of service? Being transparent and saying exactly what he’s doing? Stopping child porn?
It was all well and good before. The public square was perfectly ok and private businesses get to do what private businesses want as long as it was banning Trump and people that said the Vid was made in a lab (it was). Jack lied on record and hid behind USC 230. And know we know it.
So I’ll pass on the outrage. I’m here for the chaos.
Conservatives have been discriminated against with the help of federal law enforcement. The overwhelming majority of all media is of a liberal bent, no matter what silly semantic games you want to play or what studies (funded by the liberal media) you wanna cite.
And *now* there’s real tears about Elon doing… what? Running his company? Kicking off journalists that doxxed his kid that lead to a real attack? Enforcing the terms of service? Being transparent and saying exactly what he’s doing? Stopping child porn?
It was all well and good before. The public square was perfectly ok and private businesses get to do what private businesses want as long as it was banning Trump and people that said the Vid was made in a lab (it was). Jack lied on record and hid behind USC 230. And know we know it.
So I’ll pass on the outrage. I’m here for the chaos.
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Did they hurt his feelings or share his location data in real time? hmmm. Also, most of those who got suspended are some of the most scummy people on earth. But hey...whatever.
Twitter didn't ban the Hunter Biden stuff independently, that's the whole point of all this. They did so in concert with a single political party and mechanisms of government to aid in subversion of an election. The FBI promoted the dossier bullshit, not a single person went to prison or lost their pension. They actively acted in the lead up to the last election. But hey, because it doesn't fit your world view or because the guy who is ruining your country, whom you may have voted for (because I know you didn't vote Trump) is the one who won it's all ok?
C'mon man.
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ETA 2: Comey in Prison 2024
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This is the crux of the argument. We all know we all know that each of us has our own viewpoints based on life experience, knowledge, stupidity whatever, but when there is a concerted effort by roughly 1/2 to character assassinate the other half, we have quite a problem.
I posted that Fox makes a killing because they are the only major conservative leaning network, and the liberals own the other 4 (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN) etc. Reddit, FB etc tried to play the ratings game as if Fox's higher ratings meant it made up for it. All together, over half the consumed media in the is country is liberal slanted. You'd have to be lying to yourself to want proof of that.
ThunderHorse
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Decent spot for this video on why Adam Schiff was kicked of the intel committee.
You should have to have served in some military or law enforcement capacity to be on the Intel committee...change my mind.
Of course I know these are elected representatives, I'm just saying.
Of course I know these are elected representatives, I'm just saying.
Or get a security clearance as part of your job. No clearance no seat at the intel table.
House members take a secrecy oath…If they’re on the Intel Committee they take a slightly pimped-up oath…but none of them need a clearance except committee staff. Given some of the self-serving fools and nitwits on the Hill, that is just wrong.
This is great for 2 reasons- it's nice to see the squishes punch back a little bit (what McCarthy said here was not only aggressive enough, but factual and said with vigor for once), and it's correcting an egregious wrong (both in Schiff and Swalwell's appointments).
I am not a big McCarthy guy, but I could be if he would wield this authority a little more heavy-handedly.
ThunderHorse
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Hey man, the Ds openly cavorted with spies and put people on committees that mattered with spies. Like...Feinstein had a ChiCom spy as her driver for 20 years!
Details Surface About Sen. Feinstein And The Chinese Spy Who Worked For Her
Juuuuuuuust patiently waiting for the rest of the world to put the following topics together so I can once again be labeled a conspiracy theorist (and then summarily ignored 6 months later after it turns out I was right):
James Biden, Hunter Biden and BHRI; a trail of money through Albania, discovered when an FBI agent with Russia ties was arrested; who is Oleg Deripaska; why the FBI was prosecuting enemies of the Albanian government; why the DOJ and Biden Regime are preventing investigative authorities from seeing what documents were found in President Biden's possession (and if he has more).
I think a lot of those answers are going to do 2 things- be ignored by MSM, first and foremost, and 2, open a few eyes of those willing to look at the evidence.
Happy hunting, truth seekers.
James Biden, Hunter Biden and BHRI; a trail of money through Albania, discovered when an FBI agent with Russia ties was arrested; who is Oleg Deripaska; why the FBI was prosecuting enemies of the Albanian government; why the DOJ and Biden Regime are preventing investigative authorities from seeing what documents were found in President Biden's possession (and if he has more).
I think a lot of those answers are going to do 2 things- be ignored by MSM, first and foremost, and 2, open a few eyes of those willing to look at the evidence.
Happy hunting, truth seekers.
