Israel and Iran

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Putin pressuring Iran to not attack civilians in Israel after the killing Ham-Ass' top guy last week. He worries about the implications for a broader ME war and regional instability... Oh the irony.

Cross thread points?

Putin urges Iran to avoid civilian deaths in looming attack on Israel: report

 

[BloodStripe]

Putin wants needs Iranian weapons in Ukraine to help him. Of course he doesn’t want Iran getting into a large scale conflict.

 

[ThunderHorse]

This probably fits here. Elections have consequences. Like the BLM riots faced few consequences, the Pro Hamas riots in England have had little. But the white guys protesting (and some rioting) are going to go to Jail in the UK when their Hamasistani counterparts get to roam the streets free of consequence. But let's move beyond that, the Starmer administration is enacting laws that restrict speech and the idiot in charge of the met police thinks he can extradite Americans and others with them.

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: ‘We’ll come after you’

 

[Marauder06]

Wait, why would we pressure Israel to do a cease fire with Hamas? I mean, is Israel the one holding our people hostage??

U.S. and other mediators threaten to call out Israel, Hamas if Gaza hostage talks fail

 

[RackMaster]

Wait, why would we pressure Israel to do a cease fire with Hamas? I mean, is Israel the one holding our people hostage??

U.S. and other mediators threaten to call out Israel, Hamas if Gaza hostage talks fail

All the assholes that bent the knee to Islamic extremists pretending to be moderates.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Wait, why would we pressure Israel to do a cease fire with Hamas? I mean, is Israel the one holding our people hostage??

U.S. and other mediators threaten to call out Israel, Hamas if Gaza hostage talks fail

Harris husband may be Jewish, but she's a bought and paid for Hamasistani stooge.

 

[Marauder06]

Harris husband may be Jewish, but she's a bought and paid for Hamasistani stooge.

It has been really interesting me to learn about the different "flavors" of Judaism. Many Jews consider themselves to be more of an ethnicity, or race, than a religion. My mind was blown when I was in Israel and our tour guide informed us that he was an "atheist Jews."

We... don't really have that in Christianity.

 

[Devildoc]

It has been really interesting me to learn about the different "flavors" of Judaism. Many Jews consider themselves to be more of an ethnicity, or race, than a religion. My mind was blown when I was in Israel and our tour guide informed us that he was an "atheist Jews."

We... don't really have that in Christianity.

And there ARE Christian Jews. I haven't yet quite reconciled that one either.

 

[Grunt]

And there ARE Christian Jews. I haven't yet quite reconciled that one either.

Yep - there is a thriving Messianic Jewish group near me...

And, I also know many that consider their being Jewish as an ethnic thing more than a religious one...

 

[Devildoc]

Yep - there is a thriving Messianic Jewish group near me...

And, I also know many that consider their being Jewish as an ethnic thing more than a religious one...

We go to church with a family that are Christian Jews. Or actually going to there since bar mitzvah in 2 weeks. I should ask them how that'll works.

 

[Grunt]

We go to church with a family that are Christian Jews. Or actually going to there since bar mitzvah in 2 weeks. I should ask them how that'll works.

Absolutely...as it's an interesting concept...

 

[Cookie_]

It has been really interesting me to learn about the different "flavors" of Judaism. Many Jews consider themselves to be more of an ethnicity, or race, than a religion. My mind was blown when I was in Israel and our tour guide informed us that he was an "atheist Jews."

We... don't really have that in Christianity.

Reminds me of a bit from Ari Shaffir's stand-up special "Jew".

"How are we a Religion and a Race? Because you can pick us out of a police line-up."

 

[Locksteady]

And there ARE Christian Jews. I haven't yet quite reconciled that one either.

The idea of religion as strictly belief-focused is can make it confusing when one is exposed to "religious" peoples who don't require a belief in what initially brought them together in order to remain tribe members.

In the case of Jews (including Orthodox), per the Torah they are a people chosen by God, and the fact that they are chosen descendants isn't affected by their belief in the God that supposedly chose them, hence you may have atheist, Christian, and (yes) Satanic Jews.

The fact that belief-based conversion is also permitted within most or all sects often further confounds the question of "what" makes a Jew.

 

[ThunderHorse]

If this is true, we should just abort all of DC asap. Whatever weapon you want. Spoon, scissors, garden shears.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823811472767496435

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

If this is true, we should just abort all of DC asap. Whatever weapon you want. Spoon, scissors, garden shears.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823811472767496435

I don't believe that one for a second. Even if intelligence had a good idea of who is in Mossad, America isn't doing that great in Afghanistan or Gaza, let alone tracking these guys to Iran.

 

[AWP]

I don't believe that one for a second. Even if intelligence had a good idea of who is in Mossad, America isn't doing that great in Afghanistan or Gaza, let alone tracking these guys to Iran.

Depends on what you care about and the resources you're willing to devote to such a thing.

Is the story true? No idea, but I don't put it past this admin.

 

[DA SWO]

I don't believe that one for a second. Even if intelligence had a good idea of who is in Mossad, America isn't doing that great in Afghanistan or Gaza, let alone tracking these guys to Iran.

Outing agents in Iran could lead to Israel returning the favor.
This story doesn't pass the smell test for me.

 

[Marauder06]

Outing agents in Iran could lead to Israel returning the favor.
This story doesn't pass the smell test for me.

Same. The only way this would make the slightest bit of sense is if all of those guys were already burned and safely out of the country, and the US was both trying to turn down the temp AND express to the Israelis that we're pissed off about the op.

 

[ThunderHorse]

The only thing we should be doing with Iran is turning their ports to ashes, but I digress.

 

[Locksteady]

If this is true, we should just abort all of DC asap. Whatever weapon you want. Spoon, scissors, garden shears.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823811472767496435

She reneged and deleted her original post Thursday after learning it came from a source she knew reported disinformation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1824026719990263841