Military Fitness Brainstorming

Anyone that doesn't live/go to college with me and has to put up with the daily washing of phys kit 4-6kcal diet and whining about doms every morning sincerely doubts that I do all I do, that's why I don't talk to most people about my phys. However I'm being 100% honest here, although I can get them below 30 mins the 4 milers often turn into 40 minute affairs on the second runs later in the week and I did fairly light assistance work on 531 I've honestly been keeping this up for a year now (although as mentioned the MA/rucking is a recent addition).

Not all teenage SF wannabes training regimes consist of call of duty and airsoft!

I'm not saying I'm hardcore by any means, I'm a poor swimmer and progress on my lifts is inconsistent as hell (currently sitting on a 170kg dead and 110kg squat), as well as the fact I have no military experience! I'm not trying to e-brag, just get advice.

Just to verify I sleep at night on the rucks, usually stopping at sunset and setting an alarm for stand to at dawn. Also MA has replaced 531, I've not added it on top.

Frankly for the unit I want to join I'd feel like a fool if I did any less.
 
Why do my knees hurt when they never have before with this same routine?

1.) Cumulative effects.
2.) Change in diet/recovery routine.
3.) Aging.
4.) Unknown variables changing in the routine and how it applies to your body.
5.) Fractal theories.
6.) See #1.
 
Hills said:
Anyone that doesn't live/go to college with me and has to put up with the daily washing of phys kit 4-6kcal diet and whining about doms every morning sincerely doubts that I do all I do, that's why I don't talk to most people about my phys.
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What the hell does this mean? The proper usage of punctuation is crucial, without it no one know what you are saying.
 
Guys I'm really not sure what's happening here, I'm not claiming to be some hardcore phys ninja, hence why I need to ask about really basic shit. However I'm being honest regarding my training, I do a lot.

I just wanted to know if there's any extra work I can do to help my knees, that's it...
 
Hills said:
Guys I'm really not sure what's happening here, I'm not claiming to be some hardcore phys ninja, hence why I need to ask about really basic shit. However I'm being honest regarding my training, I do a lot.

I just wanted to know if there's any extra work I can do to help my knees, that's it...
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Look dude, here's the deal, no one believes you. In fact, we all think you're full of shit. You know what? Fuck that. I won't deign to speak for the rest of the board. I think you're full of shit. No one runs 40 fucking miles a week with a 15# pack, and does bi-monthly overnight rucks with 60-100#, and was doing 5/3/1 but just switched to MA. The fact that you keep trying to argue that you're not full of shit is ridiculous. Keep lying to us all you want. You know you don't actually do all that, and so do we. So just knock it the fuck off and go fuck off somewhere else.
 
I'm being honest, and what I do is fuck all compared to some of the bootnecks I know, If you don't believe me fine.

I'll just take it as a compliment and fuck off like you say, clearly I'm in the wrong place.
 
Going off the basis that you're actually telling the truth, since I've no real reason to not believe you bar the rucking part is a bit wobbly.I don't know too many people rucking upto 100lbs after just 2 months.

You seriously need to rethink your training mate. Running 4 miles, twice a day, on top of daily MA workouts will quite literally kick the life out of you. That's three workouts, on top of whatever workload you have in college. Stop doing overnights as part of your training too. By all accounts, get out under a ruck for a few hours but there's zero need to stay out overnight. Get home and into a bed.

This place is quite literally filled with people who know quite alot about many different subjects, including fitness as I'm sure you've noticed. Less of the chest beating, more thinking before you post and this forum could do wonders in helping you prepare for Selection. Continue as you are now though and it'll do nothing for you.

Your call.
 
I've been doing the following for my lead-up to BRC:

2hr MCMAP-oriented PT in the morning.
1hr in the pool during chow.

Some days I have a third workout, but most days it's just the two. MCMAP PT usually is: flak runs w/ plates and buddy drag/carries or A&S Short Card. There's also random conditioning stuff that just happens naturally during the course. Sometimes there is a few rounds of grappling with my students, too.

For my swimming I'm mixing it up between days where all I do is work on my underwater crossover, sometimes I do suicides w/ calisthenics, sometimes I just do distance. Performing a "pull" during a bottom sample still hurts me when I'm more worn out but it's getting better. I'm going to start including treading with bricks I've just been putting it off stupidly. My overall comfort in the water has risen dramatically even since my injury. I timed myself at 14:00 for a 500m in cammies. I'll have to double-check on that time this week, because I'm not quite sure if I believe it.

I'm at about 13 pull ups right now. I was at 0 in April after my injury and then right out of physical therapy at the beginning of July I was at 6 with extreme pain. Now I only have pain when I over-work it and my rotator cuff injury becomes more apparent. (I had a shoulder subluxation.)

I was seriously worn out going into 2-a-days the first couple of weeks of August but I've managed to suffer through them. More than anything I was worried about re-injuring myself which is why I've been wary to conduct 2-a-days until now. I did keep up with my cardio even during physical therapy so I'm still a great runner/hiker.

Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can compliment what I'm doing now? I would like to stay away from weights for the most part for fear of injury. I was thinking rock climbing, which I've been telling myself I should start... I've just been putting it off.
 
I'll leave this one up to the experts.
I'd just say, don't over-do it. If you show up broken, you won't be any good to anyone.
 
is friday said:
I would like to stay away from weights for the most part for fear of injury.
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This is faulty reasoning. Injuries accrued through weight training happen as a result of poor form or trying to go too heavy too fast. The benefits of weightlifting are numerous, to include increased bone density, stronger joints and connective tissue, and increased durability in general. If you use solid form, and don't try and stack plates on for the sake of stacking plates on, you'll be fine. I would highly discourage anyone in the military from avoiding weight training.
 
Freefalling said:
I don't have any advice, but how many weeks/ months do you have before you report to BRC?
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I am trying to get into the prep course somewhere around the 5-7 of Sept, but my school date is the 27th of Sept.

CDG said:
This is faulty reasoning. Injuries accrued through weight training happen as a result of poor form or trying to go too heavy too fast. The benefits of weightlifting are numerous, to include increased bone density, stronger joints and connective tissue, and increased durability in general. If you use solid form, and don't try and stack plates on for the sake of stacking plates on, you'll be fine. I would highly discourage anyone in the military from avoiding weight training.
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I don't have a training partner because of my training schedule being spontaneous. I might have poor form right now because I haven't done any weights-based lifting in about 6-8 months. (Not including the stuff I did during phys therapy.) I'd rather not risk it until I'm through BRC. If I over-do it on a pull up bar I let go and stretch it for the rest of the day--my shoulder still does pop if it's strained. Conversely, if I over-do it during cleans or bench, I'm probably already 6 mikes up Shit Creek.

I don't intend to shy away from weight training forever. I just don't want one mistake to screw my career.
 
is friday said:
I don't have a training partner because of my training schedule being spontaneous. I might have poor form right now because I haven't done any weights-based lifting in over 6-8 months. I'd rather not risk it until I'm through BRC. If I over-do it on a pull up bar I let go and stretch it for the rest of the day--my shoulder still does pop if it's strained. Conversely, if I over-do it during cleans or bench, I'm probably already 6 mikes up Shit Creek.

I don't intend to shy away from weight training forever. I just don't want one mistake to screw my career.
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I gotcha. If you are able to set up a camera, or get someone to shoot a video of you lifting, I would be more than happy to offer a critique. I have a couple years experience training people in all the movements utilized in CF/MA/SOFWODs, etc. and have done video critiques before. Just wanted to throw it out there. Good luck dude.
 
CDG said:
I gotcha. If you are able to set up a camera, or get someone to shoot a video of you lifting, I would be more than happy to offer a critique. I have a couple years experience training people in all the movements utilized in CF/MA/SOFWODs, etc. and have done video critiques before. Just wanted to throw it out there. Good luck dude.
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That would actually be really helpful! I took this personal trainer course through ISSA but my experience with lifting weights is pretty basic. I'm afraid I've built up bad habits that I don't realize from football practice growing up. I'll PM you with a video of me doing some reps with some PCP pipe or the bar if my shoulder starts feeling up to some cleans/deadlifts/bench/squat. I was at the gym doing the short card the other day and saw a bar with a couple of tires on it (135lb) and tried a deadlift--I felt no problems, but I'm trying to be cautious about it. I was performing an underwater crossover last week when my shoulder popped pretty bad with no warning. I just don't want that to happen when I'm in the middle of a clean/bench.

I would then be known in future safety briefs as "the guy who died while bench pressing 150lbs".
 
is friday said:
That would actually be really helpful! I took this personal trainer course through ISSA but my experience with lifting weights is pretty basic. I'm afraid I've built up bad habits that I don't realize from football practice growing up. I'll PM you with a video of me doing some reps with some PCP pipe or the bar if my shoulder starts feeling up to some cleans/deadlifts/bench/squat. I was at the gym doing the short card the other day and saw a bar with a couple of tires on it (135lb) and tried a deadlift--I felt no problems, but I'm trying to be cautious about it. I was performing an underwater crossover last week when my shoulder popped pretty bad with no warning. I just don't want that to happen when I'm in the middle of a clean/bench.

I would then be known in future safety briefs as "the guy who died while bench pressing 150lbs".
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Sounds good man. I'll keep an eye out.
 

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