National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[amlove21]

Oh, cool.

Trump's tweet that got tagged for 'glorifying violence' used a phrase from a 1960s cop whose policies started a race riot

ETA- @Devildoc this is where the QAnon folks (and the article you posted earlier) comes to a breaking point. Are there really ‘no coincidences’? Is the president playing 4D chess and every move is calculated? If so- then he meant to quote a cop that legit kicked off race riots using his exact phrase. If not- if it was justthe president speaking and it’s just a coincidence, and he’s just inept and a terrible communicator, then he’s not the white hat people would lead you to believe.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

A little trickier in MN, especially if it's a business. Lethal force can be used to protect life, not property. You'd be rolling the dice and better have a solid explanation.

Minnesota law won't excuse killing to protect property

Escalation of force. Hit them with rubber, foam, or CS until they back off. If they start shooting at you have the DMR or scout guys use lead, otherwise just hammer them with rubber. That shit hurts.

Not as big an issue as people are making it out to be.

 

[Cookie_]

Oh, cool.

Trump's tweet that got tagged for 'glorifying violence' used a phrase from a 1960s cop whose policies started a race riot

A selection of comments from my facebook-

"But Trump didn't know it came from a racist cop! It just so happens to be the exact same words but it doesn't mean anything! Stop being like the mainstream media and trying to read into his words!"

"Just like the media, you're reading violence where there isn't any at all. He clearly means he'll have the guard shoot them with CS gas or rubber bullets, but twitter only allows 140 characters!"

 

[Bypass]

Dang Man. So you are right there in the midst of that stupidity. I hope them looters don't mess with you or the corona virus death toll is gonna look kinda weak in comparison.

 

[AWP]

4D chess, trying to provoke or glorify a race riot, or it just sounds "cool"? Snappin' necks and cashin' checks. Sun's out, guns out. Moon's out, goons out.

 

[Devildoc]

Oh, cool.

Trump's tweet that got tagged for 'glorifying violence' used a phrase from a 1960s cop whose policies started a race riot

ETA- @Devildoc this is where the QAnon folks (and the article you posted earlier) comes to a breaking point. Are there really ‘no coincidences’? Is the president playing 4D chess and every move is calculated? If so- then he meant to quote a cop that legit kicked off race riots using his exact phrase. If not- if it was justthe president speaking and it’s just a coincidence, and he’s just inept and a terrible communicator, then he’s not the white hat people would lead you to believe.

Yeah, I don't know (as in, 'I REALLY don't know'). I tend to not believe the 4D chess thing; however, I also think he's neither as smart/competent nor as stupid/incompetent as media of all stripes portray. I DO tend to believe that his and his opposition's PSYOPS game is strong...

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Would I get a CIB for shooting a protestor? No, I'm a fobbit.

All dark humor aside, nah, I'm a hard pass on shooting Americans in this scenario.
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Where my Boogaloo Boys at? You keep running your mouths about wanting to get it on...You didn't do it in VA over the 2A, you didn't do it over CV-19, now you have a city on fire. What are y'all waiting for? More memes from Parks and Rec?

There's a difference between the loss of constitutional rights/being turned into a serf vs what were seeing in MN. Not a boog boy, but the people that showed up with rifles in VA and in CV-19 lockdowns were Americans seeing freedoms and livelihoods being stripped away.

If anything, the riots going on in Minneapolis are going to steel the average citizen that local and big govt aren't gonna protect them. If anything people are gonna be more passionate about protecting their second amendment rights after this.

4D chess, trying to provoke or glorify a race riot, or it just sounds "cool"? Snappin' necks and cashin' checks. Sun's out, guns out. Moon's out, goons out.

 

[BloodStripe]

VA had zero to do with III %er's. Lobby Day takes place every year. This year just got a lot more media coverage and therefore a larger turnout. Of which 100% of it was peaceful and the grounds were returned in better shape than beforehand. Nothing about the riots in Minneapolis are peaceful.

 

[Jaknight]

I had a friend basically yell at me for 30 mins on how The Whites who protested in Michigan about Lockdown were treated with kid gloves. Compared to how The POC are being treated with them protesting another murder. I tried to point out The Michigan ones were armed and it was peaceful. Went completely over her head and she said I was a racist.

 

[Florida173]

Actual example of inciting violence?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266046129906552832

 

[Ooh-Rah]

WOW! LIstening to Gov. Walz in radio. He’s laying full blame on both mayors. Saying “the state offered...mayors turned us down”.
#doubling-down

 

[SaintKP]

Finally got around to watching the video, and maybe I'm being overly cynical but what's the over under that the officer with his knee on the neck gets put on administrative leave and not imprisoned?


What happens with riots then?

 

[ThunderHorse]

So yeah, this happened:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266003300840865795

Also, who's putting the riots down? You guys can say what you want about "being out" but you can't just let this thing go on for weeks. There's already been a precinct over-run.

Finally got around to watching the video, and maybe I'm being overly cynical but what's the over under that the officer with his knee on the neck gets put on administrative leave and not imprisoned?


What happens with riots then?

Dude was fired less than 24 hours after the event. FBI took over the investigation almost immediately. That's about as swift of a justice train as a land of laws has.

 

[Marauder06]

Ferguson to Minneapolis: What’s Going On with Law Enforcement?

A lengthy interesting and nuanced read from a vet turned LEO:

(excerpt) "I’ve heard it all, “You signed up for this…” Exactly, I did. I went into this profession fully acknowledging the dangers it poses. The mental and emotional heartache it creates. I accept that one day I may die; war taught me that. I will do my job and continue to do my job with honor, integrity, courage and all the virtues that come with it. I will fight if I’m forced to. I will protect lives. I will treat others with respect. I will honor the sacrifices of those before me. This is just not me saying it. It is the 99% who put on that shield every day and face the unknown."

 

[SaintKP]

Dude was fired less than 24 hours after the event. FBI took over the investigation almost immediately. That's about as swift of a justice train as a land of laws has.

Thank you for clarifying, hadn't fully caught up on the chain of events.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

WOW! LIstening to Gov. Walz in radio. He’s laying full blame on both mayors. Saying “the state offered...mayors turned us down”.
#doubling-down

Gov. Walz says he talked to @realDonaldTrump last night by phone and told him the state would be taking control of law enforcement situation. But says the president’s tweets “were not helpful.” Among other things, the president tweeted “when looting starts the shooting starts.”

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Gen. Jensen (MN National Guard) says they were finally given a “law and order” mission early this morning when they helped clear the Third Precinct area in Mpls.

Also tasked with protecting State Capitol and assisting MN State Patrol and Mpls Fire Department.

 

[Blizzard]

Gov. Walz says he talked to @realDonaldTrump last night by phone and told him the state would be taking control of law enforcement situation. But says the president’s tweets “were not helpful.” Among other things, the president tweeted “when looting starts the shooting starts.”

I cannot tell you how infuriated I am in listening to him and Frey speak.

I'm more pissed about the complete lack.of leadership and utter incompetence across the board than I am with the looters. How can any of these clowns remain in their positions. We're 4 days into this and they're just now putting together plans. They have no answers or clues on the most fundamental, day 1, week 1 type things. They are clearly in way over their heads.

 

[DA SWO]

The looting/shooting tweet was dumb, but true. They are rioting, looting and shooting each other.

@amlove21 I'd have no issue using less lethal against RIOTERS, these are not peaceful protestors, toss molotov cocktails at me and I'd respond with lethal force.

Gun sales go up nationwide as folks once again realize the cops are not going to protect them.

Finally, what is alleged forgery? (serious question)

 

[RackMaster]

And then there's this.

Ilhan Omar's daughter shows support on Twitter for antifa group organizing riots in Minneapolis

This is conspiracy'ish but I'm honestly curious about outside actors, inciting or funding groups behind some of the rioting. Given other plays around the world, it would not surprise me if there was connections to the CCP trying to make this worse.