National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[Ranger Psych]

A little trickier in MN, especially if it's a business. Lethal force can be used to protect life, not property. You'd be rolling the dice and better have a solid explanation.

Minnesota law won't excuse killing to protect property

It's not trickier, you just have a comprehension problem (not meant in an offensive manner).

If the "OCCUPIED" box is checked on a structure and arson is attempted, basically anyone is free to canoe said arsonists skull in defense of self or others.

Check your own laws, but every state I've lived in worked as such.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

If the "OCCUPIED" box is checked on a structure and arson is attempted, basically anyone is free to canoe said arsonists skull in defense of self or others.

100% true. As they say in MN Carry Classes:
- You can shoot to protect your car if you are in the car; but you cannot shoot to protect your car from the house.
- You can shoot to protect your house once they are 'in' your house...but you cannot shoot them on your front yard *

* I'll take my chances if they have a can of gas and rags in their hands.

 

[Blizzard]

Easy villain. Target is a big corporation and is insured against these losses. Absolutely not worth stabbing people over.

Hating this for the mentality bolded above. I've seen/heard repeatedly from the pro-looter crowd as though it somehow excuses their actions or makes it acceptable in some idiotic way.

 

[Blizzard]

It's not trickier, you just have a comprehension problem (not meant in an offensive manner).

If the "OCCUPIED" box is checked on a structure and arson is attempted, basically anyone is free to canoe said arsonists skull in defense of self or others.

Check your own laws, but every state I've lived in worked as such.

I don't disagree and have no issue upholding that viewpoint, in principle. The key is to ensure others see it the same, sometimes easier said than done, especially in certain crowds. Thus, the "trickier" part. Other states make this easier to defend.

 

[RackMaster]

And now this.

Protests are rocking the United States tonight. Brooklyn, Manhattan, Memphis, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Houston, Los Angeles, Louisville, and Washington DC have all experienced mass convergences of people in public spaces.

BREAKING: White House under lockdown as protest outside grows

 

[JacktheShortKid2001]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...rge-floyd-protest-updates-05-28-20/index.html

Some live feed from ATL, I am in shock, just wow.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Guess we won't be shutting down the economy ever again.

 

[Salt USMC]

Hating this for the mentality bolded above. I've seen/heard repeatedly from the pro-looter crowd as though it somehow excuses their actions or makes it acceptable in some idiotic way.

It doesn’t excuse their actions, but I also won’t get particularly upset if Target or Autozone get looted. What I’m attempting to do is draw a strong distinction between the items being looted (which are replaceable) and the lives being threatened here (which are not). Pull a knife on someone to defend your life, or the life of your loved ones. Don’t pull a knife to prevent a $50 microwave from getting jacked

 

[Blizzard]

Curfew starts in <30 min. Still a large crowd in downtown Mpls. We'll see what goes down shortly.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Wowzer. St. Cloud, MN.
Huge Somali population up there.

 

[Ranger Psych]

I don't disagree and have no issue upholding that viewpoint, in principle. The key is to ensure others see it the same, sometimes easier said than done, especially in certain crowds. Thus, the "trickier" part. Other states make this easier to defend.

609.065

look it up...

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Don and Clear!

 

[BloodStripe]

It doesn’t excuse their actions, but I also won’t get particularly upset if Target or Autozone get looted. What I’m attempting to do is draw a strong distinction between the items being looted (which are replaceable) and the lives being threatened here (which are not). Pull a knife on someone to defend your life, or the life of your loved ones. Don’t pull a knife to prevent a $50 microwave from getting jacked

So because someone has insurance they are okay to loot? I have homeowners insurance does that make my residence okay to ransack?

 

[Blizzard]

609.065

look it up...

I know it. You don't need to convince me. It's those one would face in a court of law that need to be convinced, and believe me, the mindset that we share on this is not necessarily the predominant one here.

In additon, the statute only provides action in defense of your home, as @Ooh-Rah pointed out, but not your business.

 

[Blizzard]

Don and Clear!

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What do you think, is 8 bells the buzzer and they just start launching gas?

 

[Deleted member 11415]

And now this.



BREAKING: White House under lockdown as protest outside grows

Live Feed Traffic cam. WH Surrounding area. One camera is on blackout.

Thanks for the article. This is my hometown. It got me worried.




Also, my answer to @amlove21 's question-- is out. I do support the use of sound as a potentially viable crowd control technique in some circumstances.

 

[medicchick]

There was a protest here last night. My driver got called to tow one vehicle, there were 3 to go. He nabbed a car with newspaper over the license plate that tried to ram the police stations doors (got stopped by the steps). He got water bottles thrown at him but that was it. Now tonight there is more planned so we'll see.

 

[RackMaster]

I might support this "looting".

BREAKING: CNN headquarters attacked by rioters in Atlanta

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Military Grade does not mean quality!

 

[Polar Bear]

It doesn’t excuse their actions, but I also won’t get particularly upset if Target or Autozone get looted. What I’m attempting to do is draw a strong distinction between the items being looted (which are replaceable) and the lives being threatened here (which are not). Pull a knife on someone to defend your life, or the life of your loved ones. Don’t pull a knife to prevent a $50 microwave from getting jacked

Really, everyone that worked their is without a job. If it is like the Cincinnati riots they will never be back. The community bitches, well when you act like animals, you get treated like a animal. You don’t have nice things. Still don’t have a grocery store.