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Antifa guy getting rolled up by protesters and delivered to police in DC.
National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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Just adding my thoughts on this - we only saw the kids taking the video as the police were coming up the street telling residents to get inside their houses. We don't know what these kids were up to before they took the video... For all we know, they could've participated in the riot and just ran back home to watch the police walk by.
Another thing I noticed was the kids were wearing black hoodies and looking very much like Antifa members. So I'm thinking that in that moment, the perception of the police is that these kids are violating curfew, didn't listen to the police telling them to get inside the house and instead continued to take the video, and, based on the clothes they're wearing, the cops probably thought these kids participated in the riots.
Either way, the kids should've listened. It wasn't an ordinary day. Civil unrest was happening and the police were trying to restore order.
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And now he is going to take the lead in the prosecution of Officer Chauvin. This despite his Antifa support and the fact that he's never been a prosecutor or court room attorney. Again, what a clusterfuck.
I'm going to add another observation here, @Ooh-Rah is aware of this but others here may not be, a few years ago a black Minneapolis police officer of Somali decent responding to a report of a sexual assault, shot and killed an unarmed white woman, Jasmine Damond, who had called 911 to report the possible assault. While still in his squad, Noor, sitting in the passenger seat was "surprised" by Damond, who approached the squad on the drivers side. He drew his weapon while seated in the squad and reaching across his partner in the driver seat, shot and killed Damond through the drivers window. Here's the wiki account of the incident:
Shooting of Justine Damond - Wikipedia
I bring this incident up because it was as equally as senseless as Floyd's killing. However, we didn't have video of it. While there were vigils for Damond, there were no large scale protests at all. As a matter of fact, BLM and others were largely quiet. Would they have been had the skin colors been reversed? As a matter of fact, there were actually protests claiming that Noor was being treated unfairly because he was the first Somali officer. Charges were eventually brought against Noor and he was convicted of 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.
Many parallels can be drawn between the incidents with Damond and Floyd that speak to perhaps an institutional problem in training. However, the double standard in the community response to both is striking.
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You want a mistrial? 'Cause that's how you get a mistrial....
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"I was fearing for my safety...."
That should go well.
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That's my point exactly.
These guys (I refuse to call them leaders at this point) have fucked this up from day 1. It's frustrating to me.
Perfect opportunity to say the system is rigged and to riot more.
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I wish this weren't the case, but sadly, I wouldn't put it past him.
I pointed out the Justine Damond incident in a previous post. In that case, it took about 2 years to gain the conviction of Officer Noor. If I recall, Noor wasn't officially charged for almost 6 months. So, to suggest the Hennepin County Attorney is dragging his feet after one week is absurd. I have a reasonable amount of confidence in his ability and that he was doing his due diligence to ensure a conviction. To secure a conviction against a police officer is complex and probably requires the additional time.
Ellison on the other hand is a political fuckwit.
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This is well organized.
Police describe anarchists' extensive prep for violence, including 'bicycle scouts'
Police describe anarchists' extensive prep for violence, including 'bicycle scouts'
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If there are more riots I get the feeling people are just gonna start shooting rioters. Considering the alternatives are being beaten to death by a mob or having your business/home burned down with you in it... people are gonna take their chances with the justice system.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be said to anyone here but keep your head on a swivel.
Warning: Groups "canvassing" rural neighborhoods, taking photos of homes with police cars in driveways
Warning: Groups "canvassing" rural neighborhoods, taking photos of homes with police cars in driveways
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Well, the Roof Korean 2020 Meme? Well it's not a meme anymore. They're back.
And you now have armed residents manning checkpoints in their neighborhoods all over the country.
I will point out that the Police Chief of Bellevue did the whole kumbaya bullshit taking a knee thing, didn't stop the riots that night.
And you now have armed residents manning checkpoints in their neighborhoods all over the country.
I will point out that the Police Chief of Bellevue did the whole kumbaya bullshit taking a knee thing, didn't stop the riots that night.
Almost as if video of events is what usually fully highlights the issue and gets people riled up.
They did, you just likely didn't see or hear about it if you aren't in that circle.
Those are just the two I remember off the top of my head.
Are you forgetting that Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann called him an affirmative action hire days after the shooting, and tried to imply he shot Damond because he "came from a culture in which women should always be covered?". People were calling out the hypocrisy of the "Blue Lives Matter" crowd who immediately started calling for his death.
The only parallel is both are cops who had multiple issues with abusing their power and should have been fired long ago.
The only double standard is Chauvin managed to be involved with more killings than Noor.
No, you want an acquittal. This is how you get an acquittal.
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That's just not right, although I agree the issue here is one of poor training and misuse of authority. In Minneapolis PD, specifically, that appears to be an issue.
In re: Damond, I can tell you, there were a few candlelight vigils and one march with a few hundred people after Damond's killing. I can also tell you 100% there were absolutely zero widespread protests or outrage that even remotely approaches what we're seeing now, although the Chief of Minneapolis PD did step down as a result. This took place only a few miles from where I live and spend a.lot of time in the area, so I'm very familiar with it.
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As I said, you likely don't see large protests because we don't have video.
Even in instances like Drummond's in which there's no good way to defend the cops, protests don't really happen with video. Breonna Taylor is the most recent one, and about the only reasons protests started happening was after the Arbery video came out.
We have to take into account two the events around these cases.
People being unemployed, out of school, and the Floyd video being so graphic all helped to push this into a larger thing
As I said, you likely don't see large protests because we don't have video.
Even in instances like Drummond's in which there's no good way to defend the cops, protests don't really happen with video. Breonna Taylor is the most recent one, and about the only reasons protests started happening was after the Arbery video came out.
We have to take into account two the events around these cases.
People being unemployed, out of school, and the Floyd video being so graphic all helped to push this into a larger thing
So I've been told being in streets (when they have a permit and police close it off for them) is violating orders, we've discussed how some people think standing on your porch (which was allowed btw) but not going inside was violating orders, and numerous other instances where "you lose first ammendment rights for XYZ"
Well how about someone explain this one to me? (1:45ish if you wanna skip the speech)
Well how about someone explain this one to me? (1:45ish if you wanna skip the speech)
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"That wouldn't happen to a white person" is one of the most blatant racist spews that continues to be played on and on. White people are killed by cops at a greater rate and there's no riots, and no one cares.
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