National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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Like they said, "no evidence"... until the body cam footage is released and he's literally sitting in a car driver's seat. He probably wasn't going to drive, driving from the steering wheel at the driver seat is a capitalist white supremacist construct. Who are we to say he would've driven high?
Dude was going to get a DU/WI, and booked anyway; taken from a Minneapolis Lawyer site about DUI's while not driving:
"While “driving” and “operating” are generally interpreted using their ordinary meanings, “physical control” is amorphous and is heavily dependent on the facts of each individual case. The jury instruction recommended by the Minnesota Supreme Court in State v. Duemke states that physical control is “being in a position to exercise dominion or control over the vehicle. Thus, a person [is] in physical control of a vehicle if he has the means to initiate any movement of that vehicle and he is in close proximity to the operating controls of the vehicle, and this is true whether the vehicle can be driven on the highway at that point or not.'"
Pretty ambiguous however, goes onto clarify later "intent" and/or past driving or future intention to drive:
"...The driver in State v. Juncewski decided to take a nap behind the wheel while parked with his keys in the ignition, and the appellate court found this constituted physical control.
To justify these somewhat outrageous rationales, the Minnesota Supreme Court has stated that physical control requires some evidence that the alleged driver “has or is about to take some action that makes the motor vehicle a source of danger to themselves, to others, or to property.”
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"... court has reversed a conviction for an individual taking no steps toward driving the vehicle. In Shane v. Commissioner of Public Safety, the ignition was running, and an intoxicated individual was sitting in the passenger seat. This passenger leaned toward the steering wheel and touched the gas pedal. However, the passenger never moved to the driver’s seat, placed his hands on the steering wheel, nor shifted the stick shift..."
This isn't directed at you
Someone mentioned God earlier and His plan coming to fruition; it was going to be this or something else. There are plenty of incidents to choose from, and if media is good at anything it's exacerbating emotions and capitalizing on them. Like water, these particular people with grievances will penetrate any weakness in their opposition, and covert or drown the ones that can't swim.
As uneducated as I am; I still think it's important to note the similarities between what we're experiencing now and what happened to Russia early into the century and China in the 60's. I'll only name a couple things. First and most controversial being the similarity between the Kulak displacement and appropriation of their lands for Soviet use and the demonization of the "white man" which I'm using as a broad term for anyone that believes in American National Values regardless of race or religion or origin (Same way you'd say white hat and black hats in westerns). The 75+% of people that are consumer and producing peoples (Kulak equivalent).
The second thing I'll mention, according to wikipedia, there were at least 800k Red guard under Mao, I can't find a total figure. Even then it's safe to say it was a fraction of the population that caused the entire destruction of their heritage, which once their use had been fulfilled were dismantled by the PLA. Right now, we're seeing the galvanization of our youth and have-nots being used in the same manner; all the while the real benefactors bide their time. The talk is there; people calling for violence against Americans, it's dystopic- but we're repeating old patterns. Desensitization to carnal and base instincts (Onlyfans is an epidemic bruh), concentration of wealth, empty threats of punishment, State and "Expert-backed Science" becoming the new God essentially (Not Trump's state).
I find it funny that McCarthy was brought up for what I assume was a Red Scare reference, like BLM and associates didn't just fund and stage riots/protests all over the world simultaneously. Even in Japan, for Christ's sake. Racially homogeneous Japan lol. And if there hasn't been a leftoid slant and subversion going on throughout all levels of education.
It's cyclical. Like a low level Fermi Paradox Filter, many nations behind us have failed; FORTUNATELY, we have road maps for what happened. Or it could be none of that matters and it all happens anyway. I do believe to an extent the next stage of human social structure is for the world to be united; however perilous and fearsome that may be to opposing parties. It is important who leads it and what moral character they have to the degree that it will define Humanity's next step.
With all this pedo action (For and against), watch for a 2nd Weimar too; interesting times.
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Judge ordered full body cam footage from 2 officers be released to the public this morning:
Officers' body camera video in George Floyd case released to public
Officers' body camera video in George Floyd case released to public
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The article reeked to me of heavy bias in favor of George Floyd, if for nothing other than the tone and the wording.
But if this is the meme they are referencing:
... and it needs this many corrections to be true:
1998 10 months in
2002 8 months in
2004 10 months in
2005 10 months in
2007 5 years in prison for armed robbery of a
When he was killed, he
Too bad the
... then a categorization of partly false is more than justified for it or any other meme with that many abjectly false and misleading claims attached to literally every salient point in it while presenting as fact.
ThunderHorse
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It's funny that all over, not just this, but everywhere people are trying to soften language.
Well folks, generally in the US, the jail is where you go for temporary detention. And prison is where you go for more permanent detention.
Well folks, generally in the US, the jail is where you go for temporary detention. And prison is where you go for more permanent detention.
Devildoc
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First, regarding your post above, on FB there was a meme that went something like this: "If COVID is that bad why aren't all the essential workers dying?" Under it was a comment that said "because we're already dead inside." It was 'censored' as 'partly false,' not even understanding it was satire/sarcasm.
Anywho, second...I have lived a life of service in which I have been surrounded by people who probably should not live, and sometimes (military) I could do something about it, and other times (paramedic, ED RN, tactical medic), I could not. Even St. Mattis opined ".... That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot." I absolutely understand @Ooh-Rah point, I also see @R.Caerbannog point. For the people who work in the tension, it can be hard to stay above it.
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That is a great one!
I did a search on that Snopes site for the meme you're talking about. If you have a link to the Snopes page, that would be really useful for context, but I don't think it's necessary to tackle your point.
So, let's assume that Snopes responded to someone asking about the truth in the premise of the joke by saying it was partly true. If Facebook chose to censor a meme (if this is what you're saying) due to this characterization by Snopes, it adds even more to the list of reasons why people are increasingly critical of that social media platform.
Very well said.
ThunderHorse
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Apparently with enough violence, the Democrats who run cities change their mind and adjust fire. Mayor Lightfoot now wants looters prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no catch and release, as has been going on.
Context, Looters shot a security guard last night.
In Seattle, Vandalizing a Wholefoods
Context, Looters shot a security guard last night.
In Seattle, Vandalizing a Wholefoods
ThunderHorse
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Seattle PD will have to lay off 100 officers following the current budget cuts. The Command Staff of SPD also took it in the shorts on their salaries.
Seattle's first ever black woman police chief faces $100,000 pay cut thanks to Black Lives Matter
Seattle's first ever black woman police chief faces $100,000 pay cut thanks to Black Lives Matter
Don't hold your breath for Chicago, I'm certain it is just political jockeying. "We won't accept this" lacks the bite when it has been going on for a while. I am just growing tired of the posturing, seems like there is just too much of that these days.
The damage and destruction this morning was extensive, it was a shit show getting into the Loop this am. I am debating sending my wife and daughter to the burbs for a few days again as I did the last time the rioting happened.
Devildoc
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I know I can't be the only one to see the irony that Black Lives Matter--BLACK LIVES MATTER--created the circumstances in which the first black female police chief will now be in the 10th percentile of large city police chief salaries....
Nope...you're not...
ThunderHorse
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I'm confused, why aren't they advocating for the disbanding of Antifa?
Making less then the white Chief who preceded her.
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