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Of course. Nothing but love here.
But, I ordered some bread pudding just to be safe...
National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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But, I ordered some bread pudding just to be safe...
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Goes to show that the mob will never be satisfied. The progressives do not want suburban sprawl, yet have problems "gentrifying" inner city neighborhoods and fixing them up.
Next time you want to see.... well anything, in Portland, lemme know mang. I be out here and you can come bomb around in Kilo.
Brother you try too hard to be fair to everyone. You need to just say WTF occasionally and realize that some people just can't be saved.Gonna get real weird, here, but yeah. They are Americans. Stupid, misguided, young, brainwashed, misled, exploited. Whatever.
So, like anything else in the world, Americans come first. I’m not willing to write other Americans off without a cursory attempt to actually engage with them.
I hope you’re also gonna have awith that meal and I hope you’re well.
I had other things to say but every rabbit hole I found myself going down was just so harsh (regarding the protestors and BLM movement) that I couldn't bring myself to post it.
GOD bless you.
Gonna get real weird, here, but yeah. They are Americans. Stupid, misguided, young, brainwashed, misled, exploited. Whatever.
So, like anything else in the world, Americans come first. I’m not willing to write other Americans off without a cursory attempt to actually engage with them.
I hope you’re also gonna have a
You should post more often, easy to get lost in the sauce.
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When Like, Love, and Laughter can't respond to the same post.
How do you explain the Mayor and council then?
They (per the media) seem content with letting things burn.
And per the media Donald Trump is the worst president we’ve ever had.
Seattle has shitty policies and problems because of those policies. So do a shit ton of other places.
It’s weird. It’s almost like the media is pushing this Seattle narrative as a way to continue dividing the country along political lines. Glad no one here is falling for it!
Meh. I’m an idealist what can I say. Lol.
It's the same shit here. Any way to demonize the "opposition".
This is a good article on the media polarization.
U.S. Media Polarization and the 2020 Election: A Nation Divided
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"Everyone is an American" is a nice statement and all, but it's an apathetic viewpoint. The same type used to dismiss behaviors one doesn't care to deal with and understand as in " Boys will be boys" etc.
If someone is in any kind of prestigious group, and they express themselves as desiring to literally see the group fail, be taken over by the enemy, actively sabotaging the efforts of the group etc.. What then? Are they still going to be members of that group?
If someone is in any kind of prestigious group, and they express themselves as desiring to literally see the group fail, be taken over by the enemy, actively sabotaging the efforts of the group etc.. What then? Are they still going to be members of that group?
No, it’s a factually correct statement derived from face to face interactions with the people you’re talking about, in the context of this conversation. You didn’t bother to ask for clarification, so don’t apply motive or intent to my statements. Where did I say I was dismissive of the behavior? Did you just make that up?
I’ve been to Seattle and Portland in the last month (and TX, AZ, NV, in the last 2), “dealing with those viewpoints” personally and directly. Lots of viewpoints. That’s not what ‘apathetic’ means.
Apathy would be, “Bitching about people I don’t know behind my keyboard, forming very hard line opinions about things I have no idea about, but not actually caring enough to experience it personally or have a discussion about it.” Apathy would be, “Those people don’t agree with me, they’re lost- oh well, guess I’ll just post about it.“ That’s apathetic.
As for the rest of your comment? I’ll be honest, I find it to be silly. I’ll just ask bluntly- do you actually think one can act in such a manner as to denounce their American citizenship? Do you not view... whoever you’re talking about (I’m not that sure) as Americans?
My position is, “The MSM is lying to you.The people you’re talking about are Americans. Have you talked to them? You should. America is worth it. Stop believing the shit you see on the news at face value and get out there and talk. Engage instead of bitching from your phone.”
I won’t bother assuming your position, I’ll ask outright- what exactly are you saying?
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Yeah, "those People" threw bricks through a friend's window. So, no, the only thing they need is time in a cell. Those people descended on a grocery store just to throw bricks through windows. Those people descended on a mall to just loot the place. These are all things that happened here in my state.
These people don't want any justice. The people who want justice are minuscule minority, they're then used by others to attack our institutions. Then the leaders of these cities and states are failing to prosecute them. So, those people? They clearly do not care to have a conversation. They only care about compliance.
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Time in a cell for destruction of personal property? Ok, if that’s the punishment that fits the crime. And it’s a shame that is happening, and unacceptable.
I’m not touching your second paragraph- if I wanted to bemoan thousands of people and characterize everyone protesting/looting/rioting/whatever as one thing or another, I would have engaged in this thread earlier. Plenty of that happening already. Your opinion is yours to have, and however you got to your conclusion, I’m sure you thought it out.
It absolutely is dismissive explicitly stated or not.
"...They are Americans. Stupid, misguided, young, brainwashed, misled, exploited. Whatever...." <<Dissmissive.
and insulting to them for whatever they stand for as Right and treat them like some "little brother/sister brat" that, "Just hasn't grown up yet", which is exactly what you've said.
As for my position, being American isn't just being born here, but if that's your take
P.S. I know this is wildly inappropriate but said in jest: Perhaps your viewpoint is so compassionate because of the deep internal guilt you feel for being so extraordinarily privileged being able to venture and discuss with all the proles
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@ThunderHorse , forgive the cliche but who are "these people"? I mean are you literally saying that the THOUSANDS of peaceful protesters also don't want justice? (whatever that justice looks like to them?)
Because come on, you've followed this a LOT closer than I have an even I can tell you about the countless documented cases where looting/damage were starting by white people, with the explicit purpose of getting minorities into the action and having them being the ones seen on TV.
You (and many in these threads) are acting as if a few are talking for the many. With that paradigm you should believe that the KKK speaks for all whites.
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Then why say it, especially in these tension filled threads? There is many a truth said in jest, so either own it or don't say it in such a passive aggressive way.
Man, lots to get through. Just as a baseline, let’s try this. You don’t hold any authority here- not like, on the board, but in the conversation, in the exact same way that neither do I.It absolutely is dismissive explicitly stated or not.
"...They are Americans. Stupid, misguided, young, brainwashed, misled, exploited. Whatever...." <<Dissmissive.
and insulting to them for whatever they stand for as Right and treat them like some "little brother/sister brat" that, "Just hasn't grown up yet", which is exactly what you've said.
As for my position, being American isn't just being born here, but if that's your take
P.S. I know this is wildly inappropriate but said in jest: Perhaps your viewpoint is so compassionate because of the deep internal guilt you feel for being so extraordinarily privileged being able to venture and discuss with all the proles
So, when you tell me what I mean when I say things without asking me what I mean, that doesn’t really lead to a conversation, right? It’s fine if you think that’s a dismissive statement; it’s also fine that you took it completely out of context and applied it here. Please, go back to that post, read it in context, and be honest- does it belong here? As much as I said, “No matter what your opinion of those people are, they’re still Americans.” I’m not absolving behavior and I’ve been lock-tight for months on all of this. If people commit a crime, punish them individually to the full extent of the law. If you so choose to handle your own business, be prepared to reap those consequences. as an aside, it helps if you just quote the post, and make the parts you’re referring to bold. Just cleaner.
You have no clue what I think “makes” an American. Because- you guessed it- you didn’t ask. And it’s ok if you disagree with the constitution, the Supreme Court, natural law... you pay that academic penalty, not me. My statement stands.
We- you- are talking about Americans with these problems. You’re bringing no fixes (other than to write off a couple thousand people?), and at the moment it seems like you’re disagreeing with me because I’m not against actually talking to these Americans and ending this travesty that is our year.
As for your privilege statement- my viewpoint is probably a little more compassionate because I’m older, seen more of the world, and have different experiences than you.
I think this conversation has probably run its course for the open board. I’ll be happy to engage via PM.
Meh. All good, I got the message.
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