National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

How much would you be willing to bet?

I'd put $50 on that, for sure.

And I'm saying as a reward for information on the whereabouts/info leading to the arrest of police attacker in a major city. If called out by a Left Wingnut mayor, I bet some major conservative like Hanity or equally popular rich conservative would back that.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I think you might have missed the point I was getting at.

If public personalities keep making statements in regards to how much they care about these issues (Lebron or others on police brutality and BLM/Inner-city violence example I made, because that's a common conservative whataboutism), is it right for public officials ask them to put their money where their mouths are? Is it something you'd be more or less likely to support based on the politics of those involved?

As an aside, I have the same issues with Lebron that most other members of this board do in regards to China/other things, so understand this isn't a defense of him, just a discussion of this sort of call out.

@ThunderHorse I wasn't tracking that tagging story, so thanks for that. It is a local political situation, but I think the publicity of the parties involved is going to make it become a n as national occurence.

I think that depends on how outspoken the person is and their level of involvement in that community. That said, I'm not a fan of public officials using their position to get money from people. However... Lebron and many other celebrities helped create this Marxist monster, so I have no sympathy for them.

If anything, I think the useful idiots that pushed the lie's of the BLM should be charged with sedition. Same with all the useful idiots, bureaucrats, and celebrities that pushed the peaceful protest narrative. The republic is facing a growing Marxist insurrection, thanks in part to those retards and their sphere of influence.

 

[amlove21]

I think that depends on how outspoken the person is and their level of involvement in that community. That said, I'm not a fan of public officials using their position to get money from people. However... Lebron and many other celebrities helped create this Marxist monster, so I have no sympathy for them.

If anything, I think the useful idiots that pushed the lie's of the BLM should be charged with sedition. Same with all the useful idiots, bureaucrats, and celebrities that pushed the peaceful protest narrative. The republic is facing a growing Marxist insurrection, thanks in part to those retards and their sphere of influence.

How many people is this? On what grounds? It’s probably hyperbole, because 80% of what you say is hyperbolic, but I’m pumped to hear how you’re going to prosecute thousands of Americans on the basis of, “Their words made me upset.”

Also, you have access to dictionary. And a thesaurus. You can find a more eloquent way to demean entire groups of people without resorting to calling them ‘retards’.

Be better.

 

[Marauder06]

I think that depends on how outspoken the person is and their level of involvement in that community. That said, I'm not a fan of public officials using their position to get money from people. However... Lebron and many other celebrities helped create this Marxist monster, so I have no sympathy for them.

If anything, I think the useful idiots that pushed the lie's of the BLM should be charged with sedition. Same with all the useful idiots, bureaucrats, and celebrities that pushed the peaceful protest narrative. The republic is facing a growing Marxist insurrection, thanks in part to those retards and their sphere of influence.

We can't combat marxists by becoming fascists, brother. We need to draw a bold line between the people who are truly breaking the law and trying to drag our country down through violence, and those who we are just saying things we don't like.

 

[Marauder06]

This seems excessive, even to me. I wonder if it will stand up to a legal challenge:

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each - The Police Tribune

 

[R.Caerbannog]

How many people is this? On what grounds? It’s probably hyperbole, because 80% of what you say is hyperbolic, but I’m pumped to hear how you’re going to prosecute thousands of Americans on the basis of, “Their words made me upset.”

Also, you have access to dictionary. And a thesaurus. You can find a more eloquent way to demean entire groups of people without resorting to calling them ‘retards’.

Be better.

To be fair... calling these people cankerous vaginal pustules that foam degeneracy when popped is overly verbose. I have enough issues with grammar and run on sentences, adding floral sounding insults would be beyond the point.

Also, this ain't about words that "make people upset". I'm talking about sedition. The republic is literally seeing the beginnings of a Marxist insurrection and we're quibbling over my "hyperbole".

Dude... what's happening all over the country ain't magic. Communities being wiped out with fire, citizens being murdered, and our security apparatus being dismantlement isn't a coincidence. These people are actively rousing support for an overthrow of the nation and values that bind us together. Like it or not these people are enemies and they're churning out a hell of a psyop campaign.

We can't combat marxists by becoming fascists, brother. We need to draw a bold line between the people who are truly breaking the law and trying to drag our country down through violence, and those who we are just saying things we don't like.

I totally get that bro and by no means am I advocating for fascism. Though there needs to be consequences for the Marxists who are actively spreading sedition and empowering terrorists on our nations soil. I'm all for free speech, but what these people are doing is much more sinister than that.

 

[ThunderHorse]

This seems excessive, even to me. I wonder if it will stand up to a legal challenge:

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each - The Police Tribune

Hey, that should be easy to post bond with that freedom fund that the Biden staffers and all those celebs were donating too. /snark

However, I'm fully appreciative that we have a DA and Mayor that are firmly supportive of their Law Enforcement Agency, what a breath of fresh air.

 

[JedisonsDad]

This seems excessive, even to me. I wonder if it will stand up to a legal challenge:

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each - The Police Tribune

I think it’s fair considering the potential cost of damage from riots.

 

[DA SWO]

This seems excessive, even to me. I wonder if it will stand up to a legal challenge:

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each

9 Lancaster Rioters Held On $1 Million Bail Each - The Police Tribune

Did you read the charge sheet?
IMO, this will also make some people think twice about ignoring the dispersal orders.
Make an example of one type thing.

 

[amlove21]

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Sedition hasn’t been successfully tried in a while, and never against a couple thousand Americans, all at once, to include celebrities, politicians and your rank and file Americans. Oddly, the topic of sedition popped up all over the MSM today. That’s a strange coincidence, considering your feelings on the MSM.

That’s what hyperbole is. “Exaggerated claims not meant to be taken seriously.”

As for the rest of the quote (the part directed at me, I don’t speak for @Marauder06) - You’re most certainly upset by words. Just because you insist these words are ‘evil’ doesn’t change that fact. Advocating charging people with sedition over public statements (and little else) gives me pause. This isn’t China.

Remember- because you feel strongly doesn’t make you right, and you don’t hold any authority in the conversation because you’re committed.

 

[Salt USMC]

I think that depends on how outspoken the person is and their level of involvement in that community. That said, I'm not a fan of public officials using their position to get money from people. However... Lebron and many other celebrities helped create this Marxist monster, so I have no sympathy for them.

If anything, I think the useful idiots that pushed the lie's of the BLM should be charged with sedition. Same with all the useful idiots, bureaucrats, and celebrities that pushed the peaceful protest narrative. The republic is facing a growing Marxist insurrection, thanks in part to those retards and their sphere of influence.

This is just fascism.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

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Sedition hasn’t been successfully tried in a while, and never against a couple thousand Americans, all at once, to include celebrities, politicians and your rank and file Americans. Oddly, the topic of sedition popped up all over the MSM today. That’s a strange coincidence, considering your feelings on the MSM.

That’s what hyperbole is. “Exaggerated claims not meant to be taken seriously.”

As for the rest of the quote (the part directed at me, I don’t speak for @Marauder06) - You’re most certainly upset by words. Just because you insist these words are ‘evil’ doesn’t change that fact. Advocating charging people with sedition over public statements (and little else) gives me pause. This isn’t China.

Remember- because you feel strongly doesn’t make you right, and you don’t hold any authority in the conversation because you’re committed.

Would you prefer me use the term demoralization? Or should I point back a few months ago to where I stated that the DC swamp was staging a coup with the whole impeachment/Vindman debacle? I mean... sedition and insurrection seem to share similar political parallels.

Like it or not, social media is the perfect tool to carry out disinformation campaigns and sow the seeds of insurrection. How else do you classify our elite/bureaucrats/MSM spreading information to destabilize/demoralize the republic other than sedition? Hate to sound like a broken record, but Bezmenov called this.

 

[ThunderHorse]

If true, we've got a problem. You arrest the people being harassed, eventually they fight back.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1306070890732548097

 

[amlove21]

Would you prefer me use the term demoralization? Or should I point back a few months ago to where I stated that the DC swamp was staging a coup with the whole impeachment/Vindman debacle? I mean... sedition and insurrection seem to share similar political parallels.

Like it or not, social media is the perfect tool to carry out disinformation campaigns and sow the seeds of insurrection. How else do you classify our elite/bureaucrats/MSM spreading information to destabilize/demoralize the republic other than sedition? Hate to sound like a broken record, but Bezmenov called this.

No, you don’t hate sounding like a broken record. You use the same 4, maybe 5 phrases (“Dude...”, “Bro...”, “Like it it not”...) to introduce wild shit you never back up (Marxist plot to take over the political bastion you just so happen to support) to use as a bridge to your ultimate demagoguery (“GOOD vs EVIL for the soul of the nation). It’s tiresome. Worst of all, it’s formulaic. At least be original, you know?


You’re on social media right now, spreading disinformation all the while bemoaning the very behavior you display. A coup? Really? That you called before hand and that ended up happening? When did that happen? I’m sure I would have gotten an email. Or an invite. Or something.

Keep obfuscating. Avoid. Distract. Make sure to warn everyone about the evil boogeyman- but thank goodness! Here, in this forum of poor souls- blind to the truth- we have you. To show us the truth.

Spare me. Two posts ago you were talking about putting NBA players in jail for Instagram posts.

You turn the temperature up in every conversation, only to back down with a cute emoji when called on it. “Oh gee, boss, I was jus playin! I wasn’t serious ” a la Bill Wharton. The most telling thing you ever said here was when you questioned other members’ motives, openly questioning whether they were trolls here to sow discord. At least you’re consistent- you withered when called out on that one, too.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[Cookie_]

This is just fascism.

Bro, like like it or not, it isn't fascism if the side I support does it against that other side's useful idiots. /S

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Filed under: Careful for what you wish for...

Minneapolis City Council members press police chief for response to rising crime

 

[Ooh-Rah]

How else do you classify our elite/bureaucrats/MSM spreading information to destabilize/demoralize the republic other than sedition?

One of my most trusted friends is a prominent member of the MSM. The eye rolls I get when I even broach this topic are enough to cause eye sprains...would you suggest he is deceiving me?

Like it or not, social media is the perfect tool to carry out disinformation campaigns and sow the seeds of insurrection.

Yeah, you’ve pretty much proven that.

 

[Devildoc]

We have a handful of 'disband-the-cops' groups in our town, and they have not gotten too much traction. A couple days ago we had four shootings in four hours, and on the news the reporter was asking a (black, poor neighborhood) local what she thought and she responded (paraphrasing) 'we don't need to defund the police, we need more police.' Broken record time: the areas which would be hardest hit are decidedly NOT the 'defund-the-police' crowd.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

When questioned for “proof” by @DasBoot back in June, you responded with:

You are free to find the information for yourself dude. All I can do is share what I've found and hope you come to your own conclusions. In a way, this is a labor of love. I don't gain anything by having such unpopular opinions.

I will say again, the problem with people like you who see a grand conspiracy behind every corner is that you refuse to come to the table with your evidence. Instead of saying, “here’s my proof”, we get “prove I’m not right”, or “it’s all out there for you to find”.

I don't gain anything by having such unpopular opinions.

I disagree. I believe you gain a perverse satisfaction and glee in convincing incredibly intelligent and knowledgeable members of this forum to push back on the misinformation you post.

George Floyd/National Protests

 

[R.Caerbannog]

No, you don’t hate sounding like a broken record. You use the same 4, maybe 5 phrases (“Dude...”, “Bro...”, “Like it it not”...) to introduce wild shit you never back up (Marxist plot to take over the political bastion you just so happen to support) to use as a bridge to your ultimate demagoguery (“GOOD vs EVIL for the soul of the nation). It’s tiresome. Worst of all, it’s formulaic. At least be original, you know?


You’re on social media right now, spreading disinformation all the while bemoaning the very behavior you display. A coup? Really? That you called before hand and that ended up happening? When did that happen? I’m sure I would have gotten an email. Or an invite. Or something.

Keep obfuscating. Avoid. Distract. Make sure to warn everyone about the evil boogeyman- but thank goodness! Here, in this forum of poor souls- blind to the truth- we have you. To show us the truth.

Spare me. Two posts ago you were talking about putting NBA players in jail for Instagram posts.

You turn the temperature up in every conversation, only to back down with a cute emoji when called on it. “Oh gee, boss, I was jus playin! I wasn’t serious ” a la Bill Wharton. The most telling thing you ever said here was when you questioned other members’ motives, openly questioning whether they were trolls here to sow discord. At least you’re consistent- you withered when called out on that one, too.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I'm not the one refusing to acknowledge the reality of the machinations behind this insurrection. As for "withering", this is your world. I try not to step on toes too much because some of y'all are as capricious as a Fayetteville dancer.

Same with some of the muted members screaming into the ether.

One of my most trusted friends is a prominent member of the MSM. The eye rolls I get when I even broach this topic are enough to cause eye sprains...would you suggest he is deceiving me?



Yeah, you’ve pretty much proven that.

Go back and rewatch some of Bezmenov's video's and the posts related to the MSM. There are plenty of examples of MSM duplicity here on these boards. Do the same with posts related to academia and the overt subversion coming outta there, demoralization is real.

When questioned for “proof” by @DasBoot back in June, you responded with:


I will say again, the problem with people like you who see a grand conspiracy behind every corner is that you refuse to come to the table with your evidence. Instead of saying, “here’s my proof”, we get “prove I’m not right”, or “it’s all out there for you to find”.


I disagree. I believe you gain a perverse satisfaction and glee in convincing incredibly intelligent and knowledgeable members of this forum to push back on the misinformation you post.

George Floyd/National Protests

I ain't talking about a grand conspiracy. We are literally seeing Marxists taking to the streets, killing citizens, and burning down homes; all while spewing Marxist talking points and waving around commie iconography. Instead of looking at the micro and falling to emotion, start piecing the small events and figure out how they connect to the broader picture.

As for second point... I think you're being purposefully obtuse. Like I said, "I gain nothing from having such unpopular opinions".