National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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Based on the bright lighting shining off what looks like grass or a driveway in the background, my guess is it's possible this is real blood.
Going on a limb here with this one.....looks like she got a quick dose of ack'rite from the teenage reparations technician that was reprocessing her car. The front corner of a Glock 27 slide complete with 30rd. magazine sticking out caught her just under the hairline, but not enough to cause real damage or a major split.
I only have two quick statements on this one:
1. Has AOC caught wind of this yet? I feel like this is a real opportunity for the squawk types to ratchet up the rhetoric even further. We're in the era of late stage capitalism where starving youths are out robbing their own heroes for grocery money.
2. Where is the pictures of the Minneapolis Police who took this report?! The shit eating grins plastered on their faces while they bask in the glory of the situation will replace the Scream Masks on sale this year for Halloween.
Now time to sit back wait for a lengthy post in this thread from Box, AWP or some other such jokester this weekend.
Going on a limb here with this one.....looks like she got a quick dose of ack'rite from the teenage reparations technician that was reprocessing her car. The front corner of a Glock 27 slide complete with 30rd. magazine sticking out caught her just under the hairline, but not enough to cause real damage or a major split.
I only have two quick statements on this one:
1. Has AOC caught wind of this yet? I feel like this is a real opportunity for the squawk types to ratchet up the rhetoric even further. We're in the era of late stage capitalism where starving youths are out robbing their own heroes for grocery money.
2. Where is the pictures of the Minneapolis Police who took this report?! The shit eating grins plastered on their faces while they bask in the glory of the situation will replace the Scream Masks on sale this year for Halloween.
Now time to sit back wait for a lengthy post in this thread from Box, AWP or some other such jokester this weekend.
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Other LEOs....
So, here in PA, just south of Philly, in Chester County, a sentenced murderer escaped Chester County Prison and has been on the run for 9 days or so.
Now, he has a stolen 22 long rifle. Portions of Chester County looks like the invasion of Iraq, supposedly, dudes cordoned off yet, can't find him.
so, news says, cops will be checking all traffic. Cops I know here at the Township say, apparently, there's no say to it, you must allow it.
So, question. Civil rights don't have bearing here? 4th amendment doesn't matter? What's the law that says this can be done?
I'm not trying to knock the LEOs there but don't this set a precedent, like how covid policies did because of an emergency?
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Other LEOs....
So, here in PA, just south of Philly, in Chester County, a sentenced murderer escaped Chester County Prison and has been on the run for 9 days or so.
Now, he has a stolen 22 long rifle. Portions of Chester County looks like the invasion of Iraq, supposedly, dudes cordoned off yet, can't find him.
so, news says, cops will be checking all traffic. Cops I know here at the Township say, apparently, there's no say to it, you must allow it.
So, question. Civil rights don't have bearing here? 4th amendment doesn't matter? What's the law that says this can be done?
I'm not trying to knock the LEOs there but don't this set a precedent, like how covid policies did because of an emergency?
Kraut783
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I am not familiar with PA law, do they allow DL checkpoints? I think doing a checkpoint for an escaped prisoner is reasonable for the public safety and citizen cooperation....this has been allowed for decades. They aren't searching your car, they are just looking through the windows and waving you through.....don't over think this.
The way cops I know are talking, it's looking in trunks, stuff like that. That's the reason I asked. I get, looking into windows.
Kraut783
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Trunks are reasonable too, with consent. But, in this situation...who wouldn't cooperate to get this guy captured? I know most of the population is pretty freaked out. But, let's say some idiot has dope in the trunk....if the cops arrest him, and just not take the contraband, pretty much a nothing case as the search was not done with a warrant or PC (smell of marijuana...etc)
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Around here they set up DL checkpoints pretty regularly. I do not mind the idea of them ensuring you are licensed to drive, HOWEVER, selected enforcement is another thing altogether. There are these roving bands of bikers and quadders(idk they ride quads) that roam through the city doing tricks and shit. They do not wear helmets, and there is almost zero effort to stop them. Many of them appear to be minors. I do not like that the city has determined to not enforce the law there, but instead has chosen to randomly checkpoint me multiple times for my DL.
Out in California, the federal government has set up checkpoints that I find to be completely unacceptable. They basically racially profile drivers on I5,8,and 15. I’m white as the snow, but driving out near Niland one of my coworkers now has to carry his passport and birth certificate as he has been hassled so many times.
DUI checkpoints bother me too. I just am not a fan of the police just setting up and you having to prove your innocence.
Devildoc
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A while back (spring maybe) I was driving on Main Street near Duke's east campus when three assholes on bikes were weaving in and out of traffic, blowing red lights, etc. At the Buchanan Street intersection I had words with the fellas; they threatened us, I shrugged it off. Between carrying and using my van as a weapon, I felt OK. But they are a problem, a big problem.
I agree re: checkpoints that are set up with no merit, I hate them.
ThunderHorse
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You have a problem with USBP checkpoints...well I guess I do now since Brandon doesn't want to enforce our laws at the Border and keeps welcoming illegals, mostly military aged males, many of whom are convicted felons and were deported after their prison sentence etc...
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Yes I do. I have had a problem with them since I have had an idea of what a reasonable search is when I was 15 or 16. I grew up driving through one 3-4 times a week, sometimes with brown friends. Totally inappropriate.
These long predate Joe Biden or Trump. They have been in place since I can remember. I remember my dad bitching about them when I was little much for the same reason that bothers me.
policemedic
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Little late here but...short answer follows.
The key thing to remember is that the federal 4th Amendment and Article 1, section 8 of the Commonwealth's Constitution only prohibit unreasonable searches and seizures. Yes, there's a warrant requirement but there are recognized exceptions to it (and all of them make sense).
In this case, a perimeter was set to contain an escaped killer (good policing practice). Vehicles were checked to make sure the killer didn't drive out himself, or conceal himself in a hostage's car and escape the perimeter. This is all quite reasonable. I don't know if it was done, but an option that could have been legally exercised was a K9 free air sniff of the trunk area, assuming the dog was trained to locate hidden suspects (and not drugs. bed bugs, etc.). A free air sniff is conducted by letting the dog sniff the outside of the car, hence the term 'free air'.
The legal authority for police to do this derives from the Commonwealth's general police power, which is itself subject to checks and balances in the federal and Commonwealth constitutions.
Checkpoints are also legal in Pennsylvania, though there are certain legal standards that must be followed. In this instance, checkpoints and searching cars for the fugitive are somewhat different things even if they sound related.
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This is an a must watch and we'll worth your time. Warning: it won't leave you with warm fuzzies.
The Fall of Minneapolis | A Crowdfunded Documentary
The Fall of Minneapolis | A Crowdfunded Documentary
ThunderHorse
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Mayor Adams’ revised $110B budget cuts sanitation, library, education and migrant services, puts NYC on track to have less than 30K cops
This shit is wild. Everything is getting cut in NYC, but Adams is housing so many illegals that it's taking 4B of the NYC budget. Perhaps if the Democratic voters actually gave a shit about their neighbors...we wouldn't have a border crisis and the vegetable in chief would deport all of them. Need more agents, and agents need not be cutting barbed wire to bring them onto our side of the border.
This shit is wild. Everything is getting cut in NYC, but Adams is housing so many illegals that it's taking 4B of the NYC budget. Perhaps if the Democratic voters actually gave a shit about their neighbors...we wouldn't have a border crisis and the vegetable in chief would deport all of them. Need more agents, and agents need not be cutting barbed wire to bring them onto our side of the border.
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NYC has nothing on Minneapolis. Watch the documentary a posted earlier then understand the "defend the police" movement is alive and well in Minneapolis:
Minneapolis police incentives voted down by City Council following debate
Minneapolis police incentives voted down by City Council following debate
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It was only a matter of time…
Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says
Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd, was stabbed by another inmate and seriously injured Friday at a federal prison in Arizona, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.
The attack happened at the Federal Correctional Institution, Tucson, a medium-security prison that has been plagued by security lapses and staffing shortages. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the attack and spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity.
The Bureau of Prisons confirmed that an incarcerated person was assaulted at FCI Tucson at around 12:30 p.m. local time Friday. In a statement, the agency said responding employees contained the incident and performed “life-saving measures” before the inmate, who it did not name, was taken to a hospital for further treatment and evaluation.
Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says
Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd, was stabbed by another inmate and seriously injured Friday at a federal prison in Arizona, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.
The attack happened at the Federal Correctional Institution, Tucson, a medium-security prison that has been plagued by security lapses and staffing shortages. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the attack and spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity.
The Bureau of Prisons confirmed that an incarcerated person was assaulted at FCI Tucson at around 12:30 p.m. local time Friday. In a statement, the agency said responding employees contained the incident and performed “life-saving measures” before the inmate, who it did not name, was taken to a hospital for further treatment and evaluation.
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Meh, screw that guy…
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Non-concur.
The suggestion he murdered or deliberately killed Floyd is narrative pushed by feckless politicians to forward their agenda and perpetuated by an unscrupulous media.
It also raises concerns about the safety of the other 3 former officers.
I'm telling you, it's worth the watch:
www.thefallofminneapolis.com
Kraut783
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He was an arrogant prick, I speak only as a cop who has had to deal with guys like this...often kicking them off my calls because they cause more problems.
But the whole George Floyd thing, I'm over it and have moved on...
EDIT: do I think he intentionally killed the guy, nope....should have just done his job. Due to his actions, officers across the nation had to deal with the fall out of stupid people...sucks big time.
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I know in some cases it’s fun to revel in the administration of “prison justice”, but I think it is always a demonstration of incompetence by the government.
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