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R.Caerbannog said:
...we have...a Deep State.
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There are two options:

there is a faction of government employees that intentionally affect government operations as THEY see fit in a sense of “right”
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Government employees are fucking incompetent

Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Carlin, etc tried to find evidence to remove the President because he IS a threat
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The senior most leaders of our Intelligence Community are idiots
 
lindy said:
There are two options:

there is a faction of government employees that intentionally affect government operations as THEY see fit in a sense of “right”
or
Government employees are fucking incompetent

Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Carlin, etc tried to find evidence to remove the President because he IS a threat
or
The senior most leaders of our Intelligence Community are idiots
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Honestly, both options are straight up terrifying bro. Wouldn't be surprised if it's both though.

Edit: It's probably both. Sigh...
 
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R.Caerbannog said:
Due to it's actions the IRS effectively killed the Tea Party movement; that I know. As for the evidence behind their motivations, they basically lumped conservative groups in with the potheads, truthers, socialists, zionists, etc. It's not like we don't know the consequences of the IRS's actions.

As for 'secret coded messages'. C'mon man, we have always know that there has been corruption and a Deep State. Heck, even Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex. Considering how brazen our politicians have been about selling us out and preaching to us from their pedestals, it's nice to see a POTUS tell them to pound sand and mock them via the twitter.
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Those are quite the claims. Please produce some (any?) evidence that the IRS stole elections. Or even influenced them. Some tax audits got rid of the tea party? Just- how? No one else has the same view as you do. Whatever happened to the Tea Party? It died last night - The Boston Globe / The Tea Party Is Officially Dead. It Was Killed by Partisan Politics.

And the deep state, too. Show me something that supports your idea that this is a thing.

Then we can get to the president knowingly combating the deep state and tweeting it out, after winnning the election that was stolen by the IRS after it killed the tea party. That claim in and of itself is just flat out ludicrous, but I’ll play your game.
 
Wouldn't there be better ways of combating an insidious infiltration of the government than tweeting about it?
 
amlove21 said:
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Those are quite the claims. Please produce some (any?) evidence that the IRS stole elections. Or even influenced them. Some tax audits got rid of the tea party? Just- how? No one else has the same view as you do. Whatever happened to the Tea Party? It died last night - The Boston Globe / The Tea Party Is Officially Dead. It Was Killed by Partisan Politics.

And the deep state, too. Show me something that supports your idea that this is a thing.

Then we can get to the president knowingly combating the deep state and tweeting it out, after winnning the election that was stolen by the IRS after it killed the tea party. That claim in and of itself is just flat out ludicrous, but I’ll play your game.
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Fairly certain being exempted from 501(c)(4) nonprofit status makes it very hard for small organizations to generate and spend capital in regards to organizing political movements at the grassroots level. In fact, I remember talking to some gals in 2011 and learning that their 501(c) status was being denied over suspicions of them being associated with the tea party.

The other thing we need to remember, was that during the 2011-2012 time frame there was alot of political discontent coming from conservatives over the spread of rampant gov spending, Obama's re-election, and the proposed affordable care act. Maybe I'm being provincial, but the IRS killing opposition groups in their infancy, by denying them 501(c) status, seems like stealing/influencing elections.

As for the 'Deep State' being 'fake news', c'mon man. We all know that there is massive government corruption, especially at the high levels of government. I mean, how are the husbands and wives of highly placed civil servants making millions on real estate, stock speculation, and defense contracts? We also have a thread on cronyism at Ivy league schools and how the people who move the levers of power in this country are predominantly graduates from those places.
 
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SpitfireV said:
Wouldn't there be better ways of combating an insidious infiltration of the government than tweeting about it?
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A sitting US President is publicly speaking about a governmental corruption and media disinformation on a public and massively accessible forum. What would you do?
 
R.Caerbannog said:
Fairly certain being exempted from 501(c)(4) nonprofit status makes it very hard for small organizations to generate and spend capital in regards to organizing political movements at the grassroots level. In fact, I remember talking to some gals in 2011 and learning that their 501(c) status was being denied over suspicions of them being associated with the tea party.

The other thing we need to remember, was that during the 2011-2012 time frame there was alot of political discontent coming from conservatives over the spread of rampant gov spending, Obama's re-election, and the proposed affordable care act. Maybe I'm being provincial, but the IRS killing opposition groups in their infancy, by denying them 501(c) status, seems like stealing/influencing elections.

As for the 'Deep State' being 'fake news', c'mon man. We all know that there is massive government corruption, especially at the high levels of government. I mean, how are the husbands and wives of highly placed civil servants making millions on real estate, stock speculation, and defense contracts? We also have a thread on cronyism at Ivy league schools and how the people who move the levers of power in this country are predominantly graduates from those places.
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You’re not being provincial- you’re floating a theory heretofore unheard of in the political sphere. You’re connecting dots that aren’t connected because it fits your conclusion, that you decided on before we even started talking. Taking someoe’s Tax exempt status doesn’t steal elections. The link I posted was a shot caller in the tea party; since he never once mentioned funding and/or the IRS tax scandal as a reason why the tea party went away, I agree with him, not you. Since you provided your own personal feelings and not proof, I’ll stay with my original claim- the IRS didn’t steal any elections.

I never said the deep state was ‘fake news’. Don’t misquote me. I said there is no deep state.

Nothing you said about the deep state means anything other than ‘people in the government are corrupt’. I agree. There are people that abuse their position for their own good in everything you mentioned. That means zero as far as a deep state existing is concerned.

Show me how all the things you listed are interconnected AND show me how they’re coordinated AND show me how they failed and somehow the current president defereated that cabal by being elected AND show me how he’s continuing to battle them. That’s what your claim needs to be considered seriously. Until then, I don’t take it seriously.
 
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R.Caerbannog said:
A sitting US President is publicly speaking about a governmental corruption and media disinformation on a public and massively accessible forum. What would you do?
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Stay on topic. That’s NOT what we are talking about.

You’re telling us that the president is plainly calling out and mocking the deep state and kingmakers. That’s the whole basis of the conversation; no one is saying the president (or anyone else for that matter) should not be calling out corruption or disinformation. I applaud him for doing that.

The conversation is, because of things you have said - ‘Is the president tweeting things that indicate he knows there’s a deep state and that he wants to communicate that he’s beating them.’
 
So, Mueller report comes out, No Collusion. But Pullitzer awarded for news coverage that was definitely biased? Considering the POTUS past behavior...current behavior is in line with the history.
 
amlove21 said:
You’re not being provincial- you’re floating a theory heretofore unheard of in the political sphere. You’re connecting dots that aren’t connected because it fits your conclusion, that you decided on before we even started talking. Taking someoe’s Tax exempt status doesn’t steal elections. The link I posted was a shot caller in the tea party; since he never once mentioned funding and/or the IRS tax scandal as a reason why the tea party went away, I agree with him, not you. Since you provided your own personal feelings and not proof, I’ll stay with my original claim- the IRS didn’t steal any elections.

I never said the deep state was ‘fake news’. Don’t misquote me. I said there is no deep state.

Nothing you said about the deep state means anything other than ‘people in the government are corrupt’. I agree. There are people that abuse their position for their own good in everything you mentioned. That means zero as far as a deep state existing is concerned.

Show me how all the things you listed are interconnected AND show me how they’re coordinated AND show me how they failed and somehow the current president defereated that cabal by being elected AND show me how he’s continuing to battle them. That’s what your claim needs to be considered seriously. Until then, I don’t take it seriously.
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I dunno man, the dots are there if you wanna connect them. Everything from our history, politics, culture, and social dynamics are all interconnected; it's all just a giant shifting puzzle with repeating themes. The scandals regarding the top brass of the IRS, FBI, DOJ, and intel communities are all interconnected to the accumulation of power and wealth around certain social circles.

At the end of the day, POTUS's tweets are just a small part of a puzzle.
 
R.Caerbannog said:
I dunno man, the dots are there if you wanna connect them. Everything from our history, politics, culture, and social dynamics are all interconnected; it's all just a giant shifting puzzle with repeating themes. The scandals regarding the top brass of the IRS, FBI, DOJ, and intel communities are all interconnected to the accumulation of power and wealth around certain social circles.

At the end of the day, POTUS's tweets are just a small part of a puzzle.
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Cool. Disagree. Onward!
 
lindy said:
“In honor of his past service to our Country, Navy Seal #EddieGallagher will soon be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits his day in court. Process should move quickly!” Trump tweeted.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1111965027483951105
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This is incredibly fucked up. In case you haven’t read the details: Chief Gallagher is almost certainly going to be convicted of war crimes. He straight up murdered wounded fighters who were already receiving medical attention. It got so bad that multiple members of his own platoon testified against him.

But hey, party of law and order, right?
 
Salt USMC said:
This is incredibly fucked up. In case you haven’t read the details: Chief Gallagher is almost certainly going to be convicted of war crimes. He straight up murdered wounded fighters who were already receiving medical attention. It got so bad that multiple members of his own platoon testified against him.

But hey, party of law and order, right?
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Innocent until proven in a court of law is a cornerstone of American jurisprudence. The ACLU used to be the champion of American civil rights but seemed stop its advocacy 20 Jan 2017.

We were also told Judge Kavanaugh, in effect, almost certainly conducted acts of violence that were also mere hearsay unsupported by facts.
 
Pre-trial confinement isn't some crazy new thing. Manning was confined 800+ some days before that trial.
The President getting involved in this runs the risk of poisoning this whole thing, kinda like the Bergdahl case.
The ACLU and Kavanaugh comments really have nothing to do with this.
 
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