Presidential Tweet Thread

[Il Duce]

I thought this opinion piece from the NYT was a well-constructed critique of the dangers in the President's position on the media and facts: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/..._th_20170205&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=41336949

I think a lot of times looking at problems from an institutional and structural standpoint - seeing their long-term consequences is a good exercise for stuff like this. If not, it's too easy in the day-to-day cycle to get caught up in the tribalism and 'sides' of any argument.

I tried to think of corollaries on the left and I think I feel similarly about the college protest movement, aspects of BLM, and anti-GMO/anti-vaxxer folks. There may be legitimate concerns and real dangers at the heart of some of these arguments but the direction those have taken and the long-term consequences pose extreme dangers to the integrity of the wider philosophic communities that have accepted them.

 

[Gunz]

I thought this opinion piece from the NYT was a well-constructed critique of the dangers in the President's position on the media and facts: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/..._th_20170205&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=41336949

I think a lot of times looking at problems from an institutional and structural standpoint - seeing their long-term consequences is a good exercise for stuff like this. If not, it's too easy in the day-to-day cycle to get caught up in the tribalism and 'sides' of any argument.

I tried to think of corollaries on the left and I think I feel similarly about the college protest movement, aspects of BLM, and anti-GMO/anti-vaxxer folks. There may be legitimate concerns and real dangers at the heart of some of these arguments but the direction those have taken and the long-term consequences pose extreme dangers to the integrity of the wider philosophic communities that have accepted them.

"...If we want to restore respect for facts and break through the intellectual ghettos on both the right and left, the mainstream media will have to be aggressive without being hysterical and adversarial without being unduly oppositional...Perhaps just as important, it will be incumbent on conservative media outlets to push back as well. Conservatism should be a reality-based philosophy, and the movement will be better off if it recognizes that facts really do matter..."


Good advice to both sides but I doubt if any of this will happen.

 

[amlove21]

Is... is this the President placing future blame of a *possible but not yet happened* terrorist attack on a federal judge that dared defy him? Cause that's what it seems like. I MUST be wrong here.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

@amlove21 - to be fair, as far as President Trump is concerned, he is just a "so-called" federal judge. LOL

 

[amlove21]

@amlove21 - to be fair, as far as President Trump is concerned, he is just a "so-called" federal judge. LOL

LOL.

I am telling you, it's one thing after another.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Is... is this the President placing future blame of a *possible but not yet happened* terrorist attack on a federal judge that dared defy him? Cause that's what it seems like. I MUST be wrong here.

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I love you brother, but are you going for clown shoe olympics?

 

[amlove21]

I love you brother, but are you going for clown shoe olympics?

To quote my man Mos Def, 'If the shoe fits, then walk it off'.'

I'm not joking w my OP. Do you see a different meaning than I do with those tweets/context? It looks like he's saying, "If there is a terrorist attack, blame this judge that halted the ban."

If that's clownshoes I'm open to hearing why.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

To quote my man Mos Def, 'If the shoe fits, then walk it off'.'

I'm not joking w my OP. Do you see a different meaning than I do with those tweets/context? It looks like he's saying, "If there is a terrorist attack, blame this judge that halted the ban."

If that's clownshoes I'm open to hearing why.

I got nothing, but I love for your response.


Oh and your a LIBTARD...maybe not quite sure yet, but shit is getting fun.

 

[amlove21]

I got nothing, but I love your response.


Oh and your a LIBTARD...maybe not quite sure yet, but shit is getting fun.

Lol- I wish there was s fun label for you but there's really not so whatever, dick.

Politics is fun!

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Lol- I wish there was s fun label for you but there's really not so whatever, dick.

Politics is fun!

I was being totally serious and you totally stole the wind from my political sail...

I hate your face...

Good night brother!

 

[amlove21]

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you- poisoning the well!



It's pretty interesting to see how much Pres Trump let's the polls get to him, considering they're fake and whatnot.

Still looking forward to learning what "extreme vetting" is.

 

[Gunz]

He is one Krazy Kat. I voted for him, bwaaaahaaaaaa...but I said on this forum I'd vote for Daffy Duck before I'd vote for Hillary and I meant it.

And Melania's still hot.

 

[Il Duce]

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you- poisoning the well!

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It's pretty interesting to see how much Pres Trump let's the polls get to him, considering they're fake and whatnot.

Still looking forward to learning what "extreme vetting" is.

Yeah, this to me is the worst of the tweetstorms so far. I feel like even President Trump's supporters - or maybe especially them - have to be getting very concerned. Even if you hate 'the media' - however you define that term - the idea the President is deciding reporting he doesn't like has been fabricated across the board is very disturbing and can only have very negative consequences.

The two possibilities seem to be 1. The President doesn't really believe the press is generating fake or fabricated news - he just wants to discredit them or 2. The President really believes things he doesn't like to hear /want to believe are being fabricated by his enemies.

Either way it doesn't bode well for his ability to make decisions. I think any leader, but especially one as important as POTUS, is well served by accurate information, data, intelligence, and strong, critical advice. Living in your own fantasy world - by intention, design, or default - can't be good for making the right decisions. Even - or perhaps especially - if you're a supporter of the general philosophy behind those decisions.

I'm not a believer in the philosophy behind most of the President's decisions but at the same time, I'd rather him be making those decisions with accurate vs imaginary information.

 

[CQB]

The concept seems to be to generate so much disinformation that no-one will care anymore. Everyone globally will realise they are being blatantly lied to but not care too much and just schlep along, heads down.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Best: Donaeld The Unready (@donaeldunready) | Twitter

 

[Salt USMC]

I would say that these tweets are getting out of hand, but that would be doing a disservice to hands everywhere. Like, people are too quick to use the "F" word when referring to the administration, but this is straight-up fascist speech.

 

[Salt USMC]

I feel bad for Spicy these days.

 

[RackMaster]

I don't like the "but he did it" argument but "fighting" with the media is nothing new. The only thing kind of new is that the media doesn't try to hide their bias.

This is an older article but points out what is happening is nothing new. Trump is just open about it and not battling it out with the media in "private".
Nixon Is Gone, but His Media Strategy Lives On

 

[amlove21]

 

[Ooh-Rah]

@amlove21 "like" but tempted to "hate".

Cannot believe we have politicians born before there was an internet, getting into Twitter battles.