My wife could get 600/hr if she wanted too. Lawyers get more then they deserve.
Raid on President Trump's Home
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My man. I’m gonna look at an in person bet and see if I can make that happen.
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Problem with your scenario is Trump will burn the house down before allowing DeSantis to get the nomination.
Topkick
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Not sure Trump can win but I am not writing the Orange Man off yet. He still has MAGA people who didn't buy the MSM narrative. I think the MSM reaction as we get closer will play a big part.
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Which is why Trump needs to go away for good. Not for DeSantis or anyone else to take the nomination, but because Trump doesn't care about being a Republican. Trump only cares about himself, he's had his day in the sun, and he needs to move on for the good of the Republican party. If he won't move on, the party needs to move on without him.
What a lot of people don't see though, is DeSantis is a polished Trump. This isn't about a platform, this is about a cult of personality dragging down the party. DeSantis is everything Trump will never be and that includes electable in 2024.
Topkick
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Thats the narrative I'm talking about.
Not going to get in the weeds too much, but its not 100% the case. Lot of folks don't like the man, but like most his policies. I don't care if you're a dick of a person if you get it done.
I'd be okay with DeSantis but I'll wait and see where he stands on policy when/ if he announces.
Trump isn’t running anything in the GOP. He’s got too much baggage. Head to head DeSantis crushes Trump (Trump declared too early and is generally washed).
DeSantis just needs to do one thing (he’s already started it)- make sure everyone knows who pushed the vaccine (Trump) and who pushed for personal freedom (DeSantis and his record in FL). Everything else, he says the same thing- “I’m not here to argue or get in personal attacks- I’m here to lead.”
If you dont fight with Trump, he can’t win. It’s what Biden did from his basement during the election.
The Trump train has been losing momentum and by the time the convention rolls around I think most of its inertia will have been spent.
Milwaukee, July 2024, is still a long way off. Unless some miracle happens to resurrect Trump’s political value, to make him as popular as he was five years ago, neither he nor his supporters will be burning anybody’s house down.
Milwaukee, July 2024, is still a long way off. Unless some miracle happens to resurrect Trump’s political value, to make him as popular as he was five years ago, neither he nor his supporters will be burning anybody’s house down.
Kraut783
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Time to for the GOP to distance itself from Trump....it only hurts them in the long run.
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If you believe the GOP will improve its chances at winning future elections ('24, '28, and beyond) by disavowing Trump in this next election and, by extension, many Americans who feel increasingly ignored and unrepresented by the establishment GOP, I have some FTX stock to sell you.
You don’t have to disavow Trump, just ignore him in public. DeSantis has a number of Trump-esque policies, but he’s largely ignored Trump’s swipes at him and distanced himself from Trump.
Trump’s real threat is if he runs as an Independent and takes a number of votes with him, guaranteeing a Democrat win in 2024.
Trump has too much hate attached to him to win anything.
Having him be an advisor to the DeSantis WH would be fucking hilarious!
DeSantis is already in and Trump becomes a figure again, the talking heads would explode!
Having him be an advisor to the DeSantis WH would be fucking hilarious!
DeSantis is already in and Trump becomes a figure again, the talking heads would explode!
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I agree it would be helpful to the GOP if it could effectively tightrope this strategy. However, I think due to the nature of Trump and what he represents to many supporters who are fed up with the establishment GOP as an idea - policy convergences be damned -, if the party does much more of the distancing you're suggesting, then your second point:
... may become a rapidly escalating fact.
Topkick
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Trump and DeSantis have a lot in common, but issues where they differ are very important factors. A lot of people don't realize that DeSantis has a history further to the right. However, if DeSantis can agree with Trump on some of the issues that matter more to lower to middle class, I think he'd smoke Trump. We'll see when the debates begin.
ThunderHorse
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Well, you know, let's not log anyone coming into the house?
