Retention and Recruitment Crisis

Box said:
But sure - the job is yours.
AWP is also a squad coordinator if he wants to be one.
Rackmaster can be squad coordinator.
DA SWO can be a squad coordinator
I myself am somewhat of a squad coordinator.
Hell, everyone gets to be a squad coordinator - as long as you enlist for the duration of "the next big thing".
...just don't rock the boat - its scares the higher ups.
Click to expand...

Just want to point out to everyone I'm #1 on the OML. Of course, this is Box's list, so maybe that isn't a coveted position...
 
Last edited:
“The Old Man” said:
This doesn't help one damn bit. This Specialist and, quite probably countless other EM's got shafted like this kid did.
Click to expand...
This doesn’t smell right. Anything lost in Afghanistan should have been a combat loss. I don’t know how the Army works but Marine Corps O5s and above can waive all CIF fees. Better addressed two years ago when it allegedly happened than waiting until now though. He didn’t need the gear as an active duty 11B the past two years?
 
Teufel said:
This doesn’t smell right. Anything lost in Afghanistan should have been a combat loss. I don’t know how the Army works but Marine Corps O5s and above can waive all CIF fees. Better addressed two years ago when it allegedly happened than waiting until now though. He didn’t need the gear as an active duty 11B the past two years?
Click to expand...
Thank you for the insights, sir, until I read more… I’m defaulting to wannabe tik-tok star, who lost his shit in the field, and is now trying to do a fundraiser to pay for it.

… And based on the “comments” I’ve seen online already, I would not be surprised if he’s raised what he needs and then some.
 
Teufel said:
This doesn’t smell right. Anything lost in Afghanistan should have been a combat loss. I don’t know how the Army works but Marine Corps O5s and above can waive all CIF fees. Better addressed two years ago when it allegedly happened than waiting until now though. He didn’t need the gear as an active duty 11B the past two years?
Click to expand...
The 82nd is notorious for this. When I got out, they dinged me for 2-3 grand on equipment that I supposedly had. It was some sort of optic and light that supply said I had, I dunno what else they added to what I was missing. If you have a shit heads in command or cunts in supply they'll happily fuck you over to get their five finger discount.
 
Teufel said:
This doesn’t smell right. Anything lost in Afghanistan should have been a combat loss. I don’t know how the Army works but Marine Corps O5s and above can waive all CIF fees. Better addressed two years ago when it allegedly happened than waiting until now though. He didn’t need the gear as an active duty 11B the past two years?
Click to expand...
Problem is CoC didn't put anything in writing.
The GO who gave the order has moved on, but needs to be hauled before Congress.
 
Tooling around the internet and found …

This is not the first Ryan McBeth video I’ve watched. He’s former Army and his expertise is in intelligence/psyops/information warfare, and specifically "deceptive persuasion" (lies intended to psychologically manipulate people into achieving a specific desired result), so his BS Meter is right about as finely tuned as it can be.

After watching this I’m even more convinced that the young Specialist is full of shit.

 
Teufel said:
I don’t know how the Army works but Marine Corps O5s and above can waive all CIF fees.
Click to expand...
It's pretty much the same for us. An 05 can write off up to 5k (for a single event) as long as it doesn't include weapons/sensitive items and isn't a lost due to malice or negligence. If we don't have good paperwork, a couple sworn statements will do.

A quick look at the limited info this SPC shares shows that he's missing his poncho, flc, elbow pads, and a large opscore helmet.

There's not a single fucking way a dude in the 82nd left his helmet in Afghanistan and hasn't known about it(or been confronted about it) for two years.

This is a kid milking brovets and the FJB crowd to pay for his equipment loses, plain and simple.

ETA: After seeing that second video @Ooh-Rah shared, I'm 100% that this kid is bullshitting.

He's missing roughly 2k in gear between the body armor, helmet, and assault pack alone; that's not gear no one has noticed he hasn't had for two years.
 
Last edited:
So I saw a comment on IG from someone claiming to be in the know. The 82nd allegedly gave everyone a year to file the paperwork for any gear that was lost, damaged, or left behind. If homeboy didn't deliver on his end, boohoo. But more importantly, he's missing the gear that people want to take with them, except for an assault pack, unless it's a mystery ranch pack.
 
Glad now I posted the original video. Can't trust any of the little motherfucker's at all. Not having been in for awhile. I am not familiar with current practices.
I remember that supply were pretty strict about turning equipment in. Hell, we would get our hospital whites effed up. Couldn't just put in a bio bag and pitch them. Even with a statement from our team captain. Supply wouldn't re-issue without the effed up set. Or you had them taken out of your pay.
 
Homie could buy a helmet for way cheaper and get ceramic level 4 plates and a carrier for under a grand. I dunno why anyone would want to keep their issue gear. Honestly, most of it is crap.

Dude tells the truth about how shitty this administration is and people start freaking out. Guys, you can borrow gear from a buddy or better yet go down to Yadkin and buy similar stuff. That's kinda how life rolls in the 82nd, especially in an infantry company. Hell, we had a senior command guy who didn't get issued plates and just ran around in an empty plate carrier.

As for supply and company keeping their books clean there is a lot of criminal shit that goes on behind the scenes. From battalion supply selling off unit gear, missing items being "signed out" to AWOL people, or even theft by non coms and above.
 
Well, the Afghanistan withdrawal AAR never happened and if this guy went on an immediate BH/MH profile after he got back I could see why he wouldn't think of needing his gear. (In my first platoon I had like 4 dudes on BH profiles that boarded a bus every day to go to Lincoln Trail MHF every day when I was at Knox, and this was 2013)

I personally when left everything in my locker at work for three years. The last year I was on Div Staff and was never in the HHBN foot print...but we didn't have lockers there to begin with. How do you deploy a DIV Staff on convoy btw? We definitely did not have enough seats or trucks for all those O-4s/O-5s mucking about.

I've seen enough shitty CoCs out there that this can happen. But I also had an idiot try to sell his some expensive gear and was like..."well bud, we know you sold it so we can do this one of two ways...you go buy it back or you get charged for it."
 
In 1942 the RCN held the line as Royal Navy commitments stretched the RN beyond the breaking point and the US wasn't up to speed. How? Ships that weren't designed for oceanic transits, especially long patrols; they were designed for coastal convoys.

Flower-class corvette - Wikipedia

Canada stepped up. Canadians stepped up and became the naval pipe hitters the Allies needed for 6 to 8 months (forgive me if the timeline is longer because memory). On ships not even remotely designed to cross a North Atlantic winter, Canadians bridged a roughly 6-8 month gap in cross Atlantic convoy security.

And now we have a video where "we've prioritized Class A for Class B" and that's okay?

Canada's navy went from "we held the line during the darkest days of the worst war the world has ever seen" to...

THAT official promo video?

I'll stop there. I'm not Canadian and perhaps my very biting opinions aren't fair.

But Canada, what the fuck is wrong with you? You once carried the Western world on your shoulders and now you can barely enforce fishing rights?
 
AWP said:
In 1942 the RCN held the line as Royal Navy commitments stretched the RN beyond the breaking point and the US wasn't up to speed. How? Ships that weren't designed for oceanic transits, especially long patrols; they were designed for coastal convoys.

Flower-class corvette - Wikipedia

Canada stepped up. Canadians stepped up and became the naval pipe hitters the Allies needed for 6 to 8 months (forgive me if the timeline is longer because memory). On ships not even remotely designed to cross a North Atlantic winter, Canadians bridged a roughly 6-8 month gap in cross Atlantic convoy security.

And now we have a video where "we've prioritized Class A for Class B" and that's okay?

Canada's navy went from "we held the line during the darkest days of the worst war the world has ever seen" to...

THAT official promo video?

I'll stop there. I'm not Canadian and perhaps my very biting opinions aren't fair.

But Canada, what the fuck is wrong with you? You once carried the Western world on your shoulders and now you can barely enforce fishing rights?
Click to expand...
I could have never said it better.

At the end of WW2, the RCN was the world's 4th largest fleet behind the US, Great Britain and Russia. There is no irony that the Trudeau is just finishing what his Father started in the 60's. He's the one that got rid of our aircraft carrier, the HMCS Bonaventure.
 
I want to make fun of that video - but the US Navy has been reduced to using a drag queen to recruit sailors so I'm not sure that a 'Glass Box' shold be throwing stones on this one.
Our Army has adopted social activist policies that have spread so much bullshit through the forces that you need a pair of muck boots just to go from the commander's office to the shitters...
...because the shitter is where we are headed anyway

But hey - diversity is our strength.
One China - reelect Joe Biden in 2024
 

Similar threads

Ravage
In Afghanistan, A U.S. Special Forces Major's Meteoric Rise And Humiliating Fall
2 3 4
Replies
68
Views
23K
Poccington
Poccington
QC
Al-Qaida faces recruitment crisis
Replies
1
Views
1K
JBS
JBS
B
Counterinsurgency Redux
Replies
4
Views
4K
CQB
CQB
Back
Top