Super Sweet Movie Discussion Thread

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84C MoPic - Wikipedia

@Gunz

I recall watching this when it came out in 89, I was in high school, watched it with my Nam vet pops.

Just finished it again, group of Army LRRPS. I presume they were like tou guys in your group.

Respectfully, you motherfuckers were hard dicks, for sure.

 

[digrar]

The on barracks video store had a VHS copy of 84C Mopic when I was at Gallipoli Barracks, watched it a few times, .

 

[Gunz]

84C MoPic - Wikipedia

@Gunz

I recall watching this when it came out in 89, I was in high school, watched it with my Nam vet pops.

Just finished it again, group of Army LRRPS. I presume they were like tou guys in your group.

Respectfully, you motherfuckers were hard dicks, for sure.

One of the better Nam pictures. Very similar to us. Appreciate the hard dick compliments, Mijo, but no harder than our other members here...and not nearly as hard as our SF/SOF folks. And you jumped out of fucking planes. How crazy is that?

 

[AWP]

This will probably suck, but it has Eva Green and I'd let her pee on me just to see where it came from. It also has two actresses from Fauda who aren't Eva Green.

 

[Blizzard]

Just went out to IMDB to see what movies are in theaters and what's on the horizon. The answer is nothing...at least nothing I'm even remotely interested in.

Hollywood writers and filmmakers must be so incredibly bad that 3 major AMC theaters closest to me have at least 1 or 2 re-releases playing, ex. Shrek 2, The Fifth Element, etc. That can't be a sustainable business model.

Of the new movies being released and showing in theaters, a good percentage appear to be B-type horror movies. Who's really seeing these? This observation aligns with the following chart, which is a couple years old but seems accurate.


I'm not sure where the Marvel films fall in terms of genre, fantasy or sci fi, but based on the last half dozen or more releases, it seems audiences largely tapped out. This is probably a combination of poor product and general fatigue with the franchise. Deadpool & Wolverine did fine, but look at all the other flops.

The number of movies worth seeing in the theater since Covid can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare. That's sad.

So, have we witnessed the death of movies? Convince me otherwise, but it seems so.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Just went out to IMDB to see what movies are in theaters and what's on the horizon. The answer is nothing...at least nothing I'm even remotely interested in.

Hollywood writers and filmmakers must be so incredibly bad that 3 major AMC theaters closest to me have at least 1 or 2 re-releases playing, ex. Shrek 2, The Fifth Element, etc. That can't be a sustainable business model.

Of the new movies being released and showing in theaters, a good percentage appear to be B-type horror movies. Who's really seeing these? This observation aligns with the following chart, which is a couple years old but seems accurate.
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I'm not sure where the Marvel films fall in terms of genre, fantasy or sci fi, but based on the last half dozen or more releases, it seems audiences largely tapped out. This is probably a combination of poor product and general fatigue with the franchise. Deadpool & Wolverine did fine, but look at all the other flops.

The number of movies worth seeing in the theater since Covid can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare. That's sad.

So, have we witnessed the death of movies? Convince me otherwise, but it seems so.

They've been making Democratic and Tranny propaganda for so long it's hard to even care. I saw Dune in March, that was the last theatrical release I saw. I was gonna see something else. But back when I was single and lived relatively close to a theater (a mile or so) I would see a move every 2 or 3 weeks if I was exceptionally bored one nice when not playing rugby.

Armor looks ok.

Invisible Raptor could be funny.

Kraven looks enjoyable.

Homestead?

War of the Rohirrim, maybe?

Would be nice if people stop DEIing films. But yeah this looks like Hollywood has entered the post wokeopalypse.

 

[Cookie_]

Just went out to IMDB to see what movies are in theaters and what's on the horizon. The answer is nothing...at least nothing I'm even remotely interested in.

Hollywood writers and filmmakers must be so incredibly bad that 3 major AMC theaters closest to me have at least 1 or 2 re-releases playing, ex. Shrek 2, The Fifth Element, etc. That can't be a sustainable business model.

Of the new movies being released and showing in theaters, a good percentage appear to be B-type horror movies. Who's really seeing these? This observation aligns with the following chart, which is a couple years old but seems accurate.
View attachment 46248

I'm not sure where the Marvel films fall in terms of genre, fantasy or sci fi, but based on the last half dozen or more releases, it seems audiences largely tapped out. This is probably a combination of poor product and general fatigue with the franchise. Deadpool & Wolverine did fine, but look at all the other flops.

The number of movies worth seeing in the theater since Covid can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare. That's sad.

So, have we witnessed the death of movies? Convince me otherwise, but it seems so.

It's not the death of movies, but it may be the death of the traditional theater system.

Studios don't want to release movies unless they can make a billion dollars, so there's less incentive to release something new or interesting, because that's risky.

Horror movies are usually super cheap to make, so their RTI can be high. BIOpics usually put fan butts in seats, so similar thing.

Most films that would have been something @ThunderHorse might have seen instead of watching rugby release on streaming now.

I think places like 12-16 screen places like Alamo drafthouse or roadhouse cinema, where I can get dinner+beer+movie for under $40 per person, will become more common.

 

[Devildoc]

My county has one... ONE... movie theater. When I was a kid there were 8. So sad.

 

[Locksteady]

I think places like 12-16 screen places like Alamo drafthouse or roadhouse cinema, where I can get dinner+beer+movie for under $40 per person, will become more common.

I do a makeshift Roadhouse Cinema thing using AMC Stubs ($20 a month for up to 12 free movies) and also haven't gone over $40 yet, even when I'd forgotten to eat that day.

I'd like to try those two joints out too when I'm in the region.

 

[Topkick]

, have we witnessed the death of movies

There are occasional movies I will definitely go to a theater to see. Top Gun: Maverick. Waiting on the next James Bond now. But, few and far between. Used to enjoy going to see a lot of movies. As @Devildoc said, it's sad.

 

[AWP]

COVID and the writer's strike helped destroy Hollywood as much as its dogshit political messaging. The strike...I get it, but hopping on board the "jab or die" train with a connecting flight to "You're a Fascistville" meant they supported the very things that killed the industry.

Enjoy your activism, I guess. Whatevs.

 

[ThunderHorse]

It's not the death of movies, but it may be the death of the traditional theater system.

Studios don't want to release movies unless they can make a billion dollars, so there's less incentive to release something new or interesting, because that's risky.

Horror movies are usually super cheap to make, so their RTI can be high. BIOpics usually put fan butts in seats, so similar thing.

Most films that would have been something @ThunderHorse might have seen instead of watching rugby release on streaming now.

I think places like 12-16 screen places like Alamo drafthouse or roadhouse cinema, where I can get dinner+beer+movie for under $40 per person, will become more common.

Been trying to watch less Rugby since it's the off-season, but the Autumn Internationals are on and I can confirm I watched 5 matches. And that doesn't include Football. So I suppose I'm not that motivated to watch films right now.

The Spring is much worse since I'm watching 5-6 matches for work and that takes up time.

But here's the thing, even like the HUGE Netflix movies, some of these are complete duds. Like Rebel Moon 1 and 2, was supposed to be huge space opera. Watched both. For what they spent on it, it could have been so much better. AppleTV is cutting back on original content because it hasn't really driven subs for them.

 

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[Blizzard]

Yeah, I've seen this video, but I don't buy it.

Content is king. Always has been, always will be. If Hollywood produces a good a product, ie. good writing, good acting, etc., audiences will show up. Hollywood has lost it's way, beginning with execs.

Technology for the delivery of content may've changed, but, fundamentally, the process still exists. So, they don't sell DVDs/physical media, they stream instead. This is the case with music and video games now as well, ex. digital media sales have outpaced physical media sales since at least 2020.

By eliminating physical media, companies have greater control of their content (they can change it, adjust availability, etc.) and they don't have to deal with some of the licensing issues that exist with physical media.

That said, there's also a bit of a growing pushback against digital media for some of those very same reasons because people don't own the content the way they do with physical media.

 

[Box]

Here is another way of saying that from the CUSTOMERS point of view:

In the 1990's it was OK if your movie wasn't good enough to get a good box office draw when it was released...
- There wasn't a consumer option for alternative content back then so there was no real motivation to make better movies.
- All you had to do was add a few blooper reels, a few actors bio's, and few scenes from the cutting floor - BAM - more content
- Plus, you could sell the DVD for a lot more than the same persona paid to see the same movie in the theater

Then of course, there is always the raw fact that the public gets what Hollywood gives them - its like that now - it was like that "then"
It's why John Wayne made Rio Bravo in 1959 and then El dorado in 1966 and then Rio Lobo in 1970 and still got the same fans to put the same asses in the same seats for the same movie...
...because that was the John Wayne movie that was in theaters at the time.

It wasn't because of technology - or a run of cheap plastic to make cheaper DVDs - or because Napster made it too easy to download pirated videos - or because of the glut of online streaming services.
It was because fans wanted to go to the theater to watch John Wayne movies.

Messaging has ALWAYS been prevalent in Hollywood movies.
Hell - the only reason John Wayne didn't play the lead role in "High Noon" was because of the movie's political messaging in the context of the early 1950's.
...but the movie STILL made money - because it was a good story - and the story telling came first with the political messaging squeezed in to the places where it fit.

The REAL problem (in my opinion) is because modern day movie makers build a political message - and then try to squeeze in the story around their talking points.


Maybe I'm just an angry old bastard, Matt Damon is always right - and the "modern audience" just isn't smart enough to recognize "good storytelling"

Maybe the real answer is somewhere in between Maaaaatt Day-Mun and Box - who knows.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

I think places like 12-16 screen places like Alamo drafthouse or roadhouse cinema, where I can get dinner+beer+movie for under $40 per person, will become more common.

I would need to spend WAY MORE than $40 to fill up because I am a fattkiddd...

See also WAR ON EVERYONE

:-":blkeye:

Rewatched War on Everyone....man that was awesome!!!!!

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Movies suck for the same reason most Americans didn't vote for Kamala. They just don't get it!

One bad ass movie I saw this year that shocked me was Horizon. THAT is an American movie, yet it was taken out of theaters and the series is probably not going to finish because nobody came to see it.

Maybe Kevin Costner can get people into the theater if he puts some strong DEI characters in the movie (there actually is). Maybe at an 1860s tranny?

 

[Devildoc]

I think the future should be streamed mini-series; i.e., The Mandalorian, Reacher, Jack Ryan, The Diplomat, etc. You can pack so much more into it.

 

[Blizzard]

I think the future should be streamed mini-series; i.e., The Mandalorian, Reacher, Jack Ryan, The Diplomat, etc. You can pack so much more into it.

I may take some heat for this, but be honest, those series aren't really that good.

For all practical purposes, those shows aren't mini-series, but just higher production versions of traditional broadcast network series shows just distributed through new networks.

There are some great mini-series, like 1883, but they're really the outliers. Others may be just good enough to bridge the gap until something actually good comes along...and many are just regular series thay we may want to be good, but really aren't (I put Jack Ryan and The Mandalorian into that category).

 

[Devildoc]

I may take some heat for this, but be honest, those series aren't really that good.

For all practical purposes, those shows aren't mini-series, but just higher production versions of traditional broadcast network series shows just distributed through new networks.

There are some great mini-series, like 1883, but they're really the outliers. Others may be just good enough to bridge the gap until something actually good comes along...and many are just regular series thay we may want to be good, but really aren't (I put Jack Ryan and The Mandalorian into that category).

Semantics on whether they are mini-series or regular series.

But I think you can take an idea and flesh it into a multi-series streamed event and have a much better product than cramming several hours of content into a couple hours on a screen. I think some of the houses realized this (Star Wars, Marvel).

Can you imagine a Tom Clancy book like Red Storm Rising (his best book, IMO) in that format? Dude. That book cannot be made into a traditional movie.