Syria Gas Attack- What Now?

Sobering pucker moment for anyone paying attention, that's for sure.
 
It's a good thing we didn't draw a line and tell the Syrians not to cross it or else we'd look like buffoons....
 
Oppo forces have made this claim before iirc. I'm on my phone atm so prob missing something but there is not much evidence so far going by that Reuters link.
 
If true, who really launched the attack? Assad would be stupid for doing it, but the rebels could blame him to draw other players into the war.
 
Freefalling said:
It's a good thing we didn't draw a line and tell the Syrians not to cross it or else we'd look like buffoons....
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Not sure if you were being sarcastic but not only was it a line but it was a "red line"...

Almost one year to the day, on August 20, 2012, Obama told NBC's Chuck Todd: "We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized...That would change my calculus. That would change my equation."
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source
 
dknob said:
Damn.

Those poor kids - fuck.

Since becoming an uncle for the first time last year, It's the closest I can relate to having a child (sad I know). If he had to endure what they are enduring; even cannibalizing those responsible wouldn't be a limit to my vengeance.
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Which is why I believe the Rebels did it, just like the French C-160 shoot down.
 
It's interesting what we as a people find shocking. There have been 100,000 killed by many estimates, and the world was largely "meh." Now a couple of hundred are killed by chem weapons, and suddenly it's horrific.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Its a fucking shame that the Syrian people (fathers, mothers, children and grandparents) are suffering and dying in this way. I don't support some of the rebel groups, but it sickens me that chemical weapons are being used on civilian populations, and we the USA, as well as the UN and every other country are sitting on our asses. Some fucking beacon of freedom we turned out to be.

Another anger point is that a American team with a Sniper rifle was rolled up in Syria a while back and nobody talked about it.

Russian Spetsnaz have been actually videoed fighting in Syria. Iranian Republican Guard has been videoed fighting in Syria, but yet no major US or UN involvement as of yet. meanwhile some US secret squirrel team got rolled up and nobody said shit...

I don't understand the situation in Syria and I'm not understanding why my brothers and I fought in Iraq to watch it go to shit, just to watch the same shit that happend in Iraq happen in Syria.
 
In line with what Gen. Mattis said the other day, I am convinced that any further involvement with any country in the mid east needs a clearly defined goal. I don't care if that goal is to make said country the 51st state in the union, they better have a fucking goal outside of "we'll roll in, kill some dudes, then play state dept. for a few years, and then decide it is politically intolerable and pull out leaving billions of dollars in equipment behind"
 
Wasn't the UN and it's mighty force of Peacekeepers created for shitstorms like this?

I know that's a friggin' joke in reality but it does piss me off more than a little.. Kinda' hard to walk tall and not carry any stick at all...
 
JAB said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Its a fucking shame that the Syrian people (fathers, mothers, children and grandparents) are suffering and dying in this way. I don't support some of the rebel groups, but it sickens me that chemical weapons are being used on civilian populations, and we the USA, as well as the UN and every other country are sitting on our asses. Some fucking beacon of freedom we turned out to be.

Another anger point is that a American team with a Sniper rifle was rolled up in Syria a while back and nobody talked about it.

Russian Spetsnaz have been actually videoed fighting in Syria. Iranian Republican Guard has been videoed fighting in Syria, but yet no major US or UN involvement as of yet. meanwhile some US secret squirrel team got rolled up and nobody said shit...

I don't understand the situation in Syria and I'm not understanding why my brothers and I fought in Iraq to watch it go to shit, just to watch the same shit that happend in Iraq happen in Syria.
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Do you have a link to that sniper story? This is the first I've heard about that.

Russians and Iranians are fighting Syrians... in Syria... why would we possibly want to get in the middle of that? Maybe it makes more sense to draw this out as much as possible, to bleed all three of them. None of them are friends of ours.

The US cannot afford economically, militarily, or politically, to be the world's policeman anymore. We are in a huge financial crisis. Our military is overextended and about to get massively reduced. No matter what we do in Syria, the people in that region are still going to hate us.

There are many horrific ways to die, and many people in Syria have died in terrible ways. I read a story a short time ago that a Syrian woman got raped to death with a rat. That's terrible. That's horrible. I feel for that woman. But there has to come a time when "that's not my problem" comes into play. I am not convinced that assisting in the downfall of Assad leads to a better result for America. And I personally am not in a huge hurry to go get involved in someone else's civil war. Especially when that war is in the Middle East. If we commit as a nation to do this, I'll go all in and raise my hand to go over. But I'm hoping we have better sense.

You mentioned watching "what happened in Iraq happen in Syria." What happened in Iraq is that we got involved in a war we shouldn't have. That is EXACTLY what is going to happen if we intervene militarily in Syria.
 
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mara and goon for the win.

When you think about it, nations make foreign policy far more complex than it needs to be.
 
Marauder06 said:
Maybe it makes more sense to draw this out as much as possible, to bleed all three of them. None of them are friends of ours.

The US cannot afford economically, militarily, or politically, to be the world's policeman anymore. We are in a huge financial crisis. No matter what we do in Syria, the people in that region are still going to hate us.
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Agree X 20! Let Allah sort'm out..
 
http://www.sott.net/article/242143-CIA-or-Mossad-Snipers-Caught-in-Syria

@Marauder06, I think we could bomb the shit out of the Assad regime, as well as get the UN to step in with a security force. Chemical weapons being used on civi's is not something the worlds super power should sit back and watch IMHO. I agree with many of your points, but find it silly that we are wasting money and blood in Afghanistan, when we could do some good in other places. I am not calling for a full on invasion/occupation of Syria. I am saying lets not sit on the sidelines and watch on TV while people get killed with chemical weapons.

I actually agree with most of your post, just still think we need to take a long look at ourself and figure out what we actually stand for.

As for Russia and Iran, why would we allow those cock-suckers to have further influance in the ME? I don't doubt the problems involved, but I think we are setting our future up for another bullshit cold war by allowing them to influance places like Syria...

$.02
 

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